Here what happens when your lifted locked and thinking the winch will get you out or your know your team has another winch that is a 13500lb winch so you should be fine. Then you find out his alternator is not putting out so it cannot keep the batteries charged to get you out. he tries to go around you only to find out he sinks to his frame and gets hung up in the middle on a log and his winch can't pull himself out so he chooses to use the peddal and now snaps an axle so now he is a 3 wheel drive. Oops did I mention his alternator was not putting out... he stalls and that's where he sits and remember I am sitting in the picture not moving. Remember to have enough vehicles to get you out of the stuff you get into. We did but just.....






I would have used my winch but after sitting in the mud and water for an hour it absorbed some of the junk and would slip on winding it in also making it useless. Good thing I had 60ft of tow straps.