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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedragon436 View Post
    That's an awesome build.. Wish I could find a deal like that, and had the knowledge of welding and gears, to be able to set up a set of 44's under my XJ... Not 1 tons, but would be plenty fine for me and anything I plan on doing with my XJ... Btu most of the 44's I've found are priced like they're wontons.. and still have to put the money into them to make them mount up, as well as gears/lockers... I still keep my eyes out for a deal like that though...
    Isn't that the truth! I keep an eye on them locally in case one pops up cheap. Almost bought one last week but decided to wait.
    Even the JK takeoffs are 1000. Saw a ready to go locked w 4.56 for 3k the other day.

    I'm gonna stay on 33s for now. But would like to get to 35 in the near future. That will probably be the max for this rig. Sleeved my 30 now I need to weld the pumpkin and tubes , but dont want to jack with putting in new inner seals.

    Steve looking great sir!

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    Don't let the name fool you. It is just a cheap posi. It replaced the Power Lock, which was also not a locker. However, it was in two halves and fully machined and could be beefed up to about 70% of full lock. Never heard solid numbers on that, but it would make tires chirp in a hard corner on pavement and had four spicer gears instead of just two
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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    Quote Originally Posted by 4.3LXJ View Post
    Don't let the name fool you. It is just a cheap posi. It replaced the Power Lock, which was also not a locker. However, it was in two halves and fully machined and could be beefed up to about 70% of full lock. Never heard solid numbers on that, but it would make tires chirp in a hard corner on pavement and had four spicer gears instead of just two
    So a "cross" (+) instead of cross pin. That's kinda cool. How does it engage? I guess that's the problem...

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    The trac lock? It has clutches. Pain in the ass to rebuild. Needs to be done in a press and snap rings to install. I never have liked them since they came out in the mid 70s
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    Next thing to consider is shock mounts. The Scout uses mounts on the spring plates, so this housing is pretty naked compared to the XJ. So I built some shock mounts. The first thing I did is go to a pick and pull and get some shock mounting studs. You can find them on all K or C series Chevy pickups. The front upper shock mount just unbolts and you have the perfect lower mount for the XJ. Takes the same lower shock bushing. And if you break your stock mounting stud, you can drill a hole for one of these and you will never know the difference.
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    The next step in this evolution is deciding on what I want to run for a suspension. I currently have a bastard pack made from Isuzu rear springs that is very flexy that is as about as good a general wheeling spring as I could want. Very flexy and rides well. But is it what I am going to stick with. The short answer is, no. I want to link the rear since the leaf springs are not going to do well with any real horsepower, and I think I can make it ride even better. So, springs and shocks of choice? Going to remain outside the box on this and use Ford Aerostar rear springs. After observing how well the minivan rides and looking around the wrecking yard, these rear coils are unknown so not even rated in the off road world. They are a variable rate coil about 19" long and 5" fully compressed with a center bolt holding the spring in place on both ends.
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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    I will be interested to see how those springs do off road. I like the idea of linked rear end, I built a set for a Moab guy once, ran as parallel to the frame as possible then curved down as they came to the rear end, he wanted as much free space as he could get, they never got bent hanging up on rocks.

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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    Quote Originally Posted by bugsjeep View Post
    I will be interested to see how those springs do off road. I like the idea of linked rear end, I built a set for a Moab guy once, ran as parallel to the frame as possible then curved down as they came to the rear end, he wanted as much free space as he could get, they never got bent hanging up on rocks.
    Sounds like a great design. I'm tempted to link and coil the rear axle in mine, but got other things I want to do first

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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    Quote Originally Posted by 4.3LXJ View Post
    The next step in this evolution is deciding on what I want to run for a suspension. I currently have a bastard pack made from Isuzu rear springs that is very flexy that is as about as good a general wheeling spring as I could want. Very flexy and rides well. But is it what I am going to stick with. The short answer is, no. I want to link the rear since the leaf springs are not going to do well with any real horsepower, and I think I can make it ride even better. So, springs and shocks of choice? Going to remain outside the box on this and use Ford Aerostar rear springs. After observing how well the minivan rides and looking around the wrecking yard, these rear coils are unknown so not even rated in the off road world. They are a variable rate coil about 19" long and 5" fully compressed with a center bolt holding the spring in place on both ends.
    Yessir!!! Can. Not. Wait.

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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    I just wish link joints were cheaper!

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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Wheeler View Post
    I just wish link joints were cheaper!

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    So do I. The ones I like to use are 150 a link. Will post more soon
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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    So after getting the shock mounts on, it was time to figure out some specifics on what I would use for for a suspension. I decided I would use a three link since that gives lots of flex, is the smoothest riding for any given spring rate and the most stable laterally. So since it requires a center mounting, I made a truss to go across the top.
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    The link mount will accommodate my huge Parts Mike end links I like to use. There are spacers added in to the mounting so I can have up to 40 of twist to them
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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    Also put coil buckets on the axle tubes to accommodate the new coils. I set the Jeep gently on these to see how they would do and it sits at the same height it did before. So far, so good, except .................. I welded the shock mounts on the wrong side of the axle
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    Default Re: My Dana44 Axle Build

    Quote Originally Posted by 4.3LXJ View Post
    I welded the shock mounts on the wrong side of the axle
    Not that i have ever done anything like that, but I have heard they make remove the weld tools that work pretty good.....sometimes they even cause your shirt to catch fire.....not that I've done that either..

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