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    Quote Originally Posted by prerunner1982 View Post
    What kind of handhelds are we talking about? CB, Ham radio, the FRS/GMRS radios you buy in pairs at walmart?
    We've got a pair of FRS/GMRS at the ready for bug out. I was wondering about handheld CB and HAM (if there is handheld HAM).

    Sorry I wasn't specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prerunner1982 View Post
    I had good luck using the FREE Tech study guide from WB6NU, http://www.kb6nu.com/study-guides/

    The tests are typically 15 to take and your ham license is good for 10yrs.
    Am I looking for the technicain class guide, or general? Thanks.

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    The Midland 75-822 (125) is a true handheld CB that comes with the adapters needed to use it in the vehicle (power plug and external antenna plug).

    Cobra has a couple of true handheld CB radios but they also have the Cobra 75 WX ST (130) which has all the radio controls in the mic so the body of the radio can be mounted elsewhere.

    There are handheld Ham radios called HTs (Handy Talkies) that range from 30 to 500... but each user is required to have a ham license.

    The Cobra 75 is about like any other mobile CB if used with an external antenna.

    Most handheld radios regardless of type (CB, Ham, FRS/GRMS) won't work very well from inside a vehicle with the stock antenna attached to the radio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packmule1911 View Post
    Am I looking for the technicain class guide, or general? Thanks.
    Technician. It will get you good local communications (50.0-54.0 MHz aka 6 meters, 144-148 MHz aka 2 meter, 222.0-225.0 MHz aka 1.25 meter, 420.0-450.0 MHz aka 70cm, 902.0-928.0 MHz aka 33cm, and on up into the hundreds of Gigahertz) . If you want to go for your General you still have to take and pass the Technician exam. The General class license gives you access to a lot more frequencies in the HF range providing world wide communications.

    Most local repeaters are in the 2m and 70cm frequency range.

    The HT ham radio I use is on Amazon right now for about 26.25, radio programming cable is 5.50, the external antenna is 22 and the adapter to mate the antenna to the radio is 6.50. If you include the cost of the ham license test (15) you are on the air for 75.25.

    Here are the items I have:
    Radio: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV5R-Dual-Band-Two-Way-Radio/dp/B007H4VT7A/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1437760925&sr =1-1&keywords=UV5r"]Amazon.com : BaoFeng UV5R Dual-Band Two-Way Radio, Black : Frs Two Way Radios : Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511g69P-3ZL.@@AMEPARAM@@511g69P-3ZL[/ame]
    Radio Programming Cable: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008RZJHJU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailp age_o06_s00"]Amazon.com : USB Programming Cable for Baofeng UV-5R UV-3R+ Two way Radio With Driver CD : Computer Usb Cables : Car Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41346zb5ugL.@@AMEPARAM@@41346zb5ugL[/ame]
    Antenna: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045EQUBK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailp age_o08_s00"]Amazon.com: Tram 1185 Amateur Dual-Band Magnet Antenna: GPS & Navigation@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31ZH9uoi81L.@@AMEPARAM@@31ZH9uoi81L[/ame]
    Adapter: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00COKNKS8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailp age_o03_s00"]Amazon.com: DHT Handheld Antenna Cable for Wouxun Baofeng Quasheng Linton - Adapter for UHF Base and Mobile Antennas - SMA Female to UHF SO-239 Female Connectors 6'': Computers & Accessories@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41wpeu5fcuL.@@AMEPARAM@@41wpeu5fcuL[/ame]


    To get you started that would get you there, ultimately you would probably want to save up for a higher power mobile radio.
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    I'm running a uniden radio with a short fiberglass firestick, mounted on the drivers front fender. It works well for trail use and meets my height restrictions for patrolling underground garages for my employer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by prerunner1982 View Post
    Technician. It will get you good local communications (50.0-54.0 MHz aka 6 meters, 144-148 MHz aka 2 meter, 222.0-225.0 MHz aka 1.25 meter, 420.0-450.0 MHz aka 70cm, 902.0-928.0 MHz aka 33cm, and on up into the hundreds of Gigahertz).
    Thank you. I do not grasp the Hz and cm measurements pertaining to radio yet, but I do know that the low E string on bass resonates at 100MHz. I'll learn.

    You mentioned a more powerful radio. Is the power related to the license you have, or can you start out with a more powerful later? Some of the other options the Amazon serves up specifically say "HAM" in the descriptions. What identifies a radio as HAM?
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    The 2 meter band, 144-148MHz isn't too much higher than the FM radio stations you listen too which stop at 108MHz. Most 2m HT and Mobile radios operate in FM as well so the sound quality is much like your FM radio station as well. CB is AM ... much like AM radio stations as far as sound quality goes.

    You can legally operate 1500 watts with any FCC Amateur Radio License more or less, there are some exceptions there. But if we are strictly speaking VHF/UHF (typically mobile ham radios) you won't need more than the radio puts out which is typically 40-75 watts depending on radio.

    My mobile puts out 50 watts on 2m and does fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packmule1911 View Post
    Some of the other options the Amazon serves up specifically say "HAM" in the descriptions. What identifies a radio as HAM?
    The frequencies that it operates in that requires you to have an Amateur Radio license from the FCC to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packmule1911 View Post
    Thank you. I do not grasp the Hz and cm measurements pertaining to radio yet,
    MHz is Frequency and Meter/cm is Wavelength.
    300 / MHz = Meters/cm
    300/ Meters/cm = MHz.

    example: 300 / 2 Meters = 150MHz approx, really 144-148.
    300 / 27.185MHz = 11.03 or 11 Meters (CB), 27.185MHz is Channel 19 for CB.

    I know MHz and Meters is confusing if I remember correctly Josh (NW99XJ) also had a bit of an issue with that. If we are talking about a radio we typically will use the Wavelength description... I have a 2m radio or 10m radio but if we are talking about a repeater we would say the 147.135 machine or someone would say meet me on 146.485 simplex.

    Frequency is for exact, Wavelength is to describe a range of frequencies.

    Hope that doesn't confuse you any more.. if so forget I said anything and I will delete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prerunner1982 View Post
    300 / MHz = Meters/cm
    300/ Meters/cm = MHz.

    example: 300 / 2 Meters = 150MHz approx, really 144-148.
    300 / 27.185MHz = 11.03 or 11 Meters (CB), 27.185MHz is Channel 19 for CB.

    I know MHz and Meters is confusing if I remember correctly Josh (NW99XJ) also had a bit of an issue with that. If we are talking about a radio we typically will use the Wavelength description... I have a 2m radio or 10m radio but if we are talking about a repeater we would say the 147.135 machine or someone would say meet me on 146.485 simplex.

    Frequency is for exact, Wavelength is to describe a range of frequencies.

    Hope that doesn't confuse you any more.. if so forget I said anything and I will delete.
    No. It's all good. What a meter is in this case would be good to know. I have a physics of sound class in college, a long time ago, and we studied sine waves. I cared a little, but not as much as I wish I'd have.

    If you get tired of teaching, I won't be offended. I'll probably start to grasp this better when I have some gear in hand and am actually doing something instead of just thinking about it.

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    A meter is about 3.3 feet. For 148MHz the radio wave is about 6.6' (2 meters) long.

    I don't mind teaching others about ham radio at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prerunner1982 View Post
    A meter is about 3.3 feet. For 148MHz the radio wave is about 6.6' (2 meters) long.

    I don't mind teaching others about ham radio at all.
    Most mobile antennas are 1/4 wave, which would be that 6.6' divided by 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudderoy View Post
    Most mobile antennas are 1/4 wave, which would be that 6.6' divided by 4
    Correct.. about 20"

    Quote Originally Posted by prerunner1982 View Post
    For low profile and emergency communications I would have to suggest ham radio. A 1/4 wave antenna for CB is 108" (102" whip plus spring= 108").. a 1/4 wave antenna for 2 meter ham radio is about 20". .
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    Quote Originally Posted by prerunner1982 View Post
    The HT ham radio I use is on Amazon right now for about 26.25.

    Radio: Amazon.com : BaoFeng UV5R Dual-Band Two-Way Radio, Black : Frs Two Way Radios : Electronics
    Bought the radio. Getting the other stuff next time. Will probably plan around with CB too so as to not be ignorant on either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prerunner1982 View Post
    A meter is about 3.3 feet. For 148MHz the radio wave is about 6.6' (2 meters) long.
    Thanks. So "meter" is the length of the wave. That's probably obvious, but I thought it could have been the reading on a multimeter or something like it.

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