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    So I was thinking about this the other day, and would still like to do an LED headlight conversion, but was thinking.. I don't think these LED setups would work very well for an off road rig.. Just thinking if your front end ends up in water or even worse mud, that probably won't be good for the fans on the back of them... For a DD and every now and again trail rig, I think they'd work great, but not so sure on if you are ever going to do any kind of water crossing or mud...
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    The set I bought are fully waterproofed, so should be good to go, though I do see your point about the mud. We don't normally get headlight deep mud in the UK, unless you go lookin to find it.

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    Default Re: LED headlight upgrade

    It might just be hats to tell in the video, but do the high beams throw further than the lows? Or Lima like they get much brighter, but don't seem to throw any further. But I realize videos and pixies are terrible at showing lighting.

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    Default Re: LED headlight upgrade

    They would this further, if the reflectors weren't shot with rust, (and have never been aligned) but as I'm running 90" x 500w of Cree lightbars I've no real need to rush to sort them.

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    Well I'm just looking at the ones with the cooling fan on the backs of them... would think the fans would be open to whatever water or mud might get into them out on the trails... I mean I know usually you try to avoid that deep of water/mud.... but you never know when you might decide to Wayne that !!
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    If it helps, The only part of the fans that are 'open' are the blades, all the connections and motors are sealed, so anything spread about by the fans won't get anywhere important. You may get some blocking of the blades if your headlight deep in mud.
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    Yeah I think as far as water goes I think they'll be fine, but think mud would trash the blades for sure, or probably the motors just cause of the blades being jambed up... Might have to see if I can find some that aren't the CREE setup like that with the fans.. Or just try and avoid the deep stuff... Maybe for a bit I'll run just an upgraded harness, and do the H4 conversion, till I know what kind of stuff I"ll be wheeling in down in SC, then I can make the choice if I want to upgrade.. But will def keep an eye out for reviews on how they stand up over time...
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    I started looking into this upgrade after reading this thread. I didn't like the solution with all the additional parts. More things to fail. I was happy to find several solutions on ebay that just have the LED H4 insert. It was like 64 shipped. No fans, etc... In fact they even made mention of it.

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    One thing to watch for on LED headlights. Make sure they have only 2 emitters. There are a lot of LEDs listed as headlights, with a load of small emitters, they're NOT headlights ! Some are single pole, so no dip/main, the ones that are twin pole, still won't match the light output pattern of standard bulbs, so you'll get a proper beam with clean cutoffs and cat be properly aligned.
    The type that have just 2 luminous pots, or emitters are matched, position wise as the filaments on standard tungsten/halogen bulbs. If you can get this type without fans, your good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philxj4L View Post
    One thing to watch for on LED headlights. Make sure they have only 2 emitters. There are a lot of LEDs listed as headlights, with a load of small emitters, they're NOT headlights ! Some are single pole, so no dip/main, the ones that are twin pole, still won't match the light output pattern of standard bulbs, so you'll get a proper beam with clean cutoffs and cat be properly aligned.
    The type that have just 2 luminous pots, or emitters are matched, position wise as the filaments on standard tungsten/halogen bulbs. If you can get this type without fans, your good to go.
    Man, who knew LED's & LED headlight upgrades could get so complicated?!! Thank you for the insight though, as I have been trying to research all available options and ideas for my next rig.. I do like the LED output, and the far longer life of the LED's over standard bulbs, but hate the expense of kits that don't have the fans such as the Trucklite headlight setup.. So will have to see what I can find in similar price range to the setup you got, without the fans, just in case they find themselves in water or mud...
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    links to purchase?......i have somewhat of a headlight drama situation. buying a harness soon for my jeep and wifes subaru. lights are dim and flickers.

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    Just catching up, not sure how I missed this reply !
    Anyhoo, these are the latest in the market, NO FANS. Just heat sinks. 2.2A draw, so no need for updated harness. And yes, ice a set on order.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60W-6000-K...item19f639410d

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    Interesting…I've been looking at upgrading my trailblazer to LEDs (did my XJ last summer) but I need two kits so the 115 per kit price has made me wary on a 10 year old dd that it looks like will be put out to pasture in the next 6-8 months.

    Looks like the heat sinks are much bigger on the fanless setup compared to the fan setup (clearance issues perhaps). When I mounted the ones on my XJ, I didn't have a ton of room behind the bucket to mount he power supply…I ended up mounting them under the bucket with self tappers.

    Anyway, I'd always recommend turning your headlights off, unplugging the electric fan, etc when planning a water crossing to keep muck out of those fans but it isn't always practical.

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    Looking at ordering the LED's with fanless cooling within the next day or two... Talked to the guy who I plan on getting all my offroad LED lights from, and he said he'll have the H4 sets in stock in about a week or so... and that the folks that ran the fanless setup on the Jeeps usually just drill out the back of the headlight buckets, to add clearance as well as added air flow for cooling, so figure that should help me with the moving the power supply into the engine bay or wherever I figure to mount em up.. Can't wait to get it all installed and tested out..
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    Great minds ! Just last night I'd been thinking about the space, or lack of, and had a half plan of using a hole saw to cut out the back of the bucket if needed.

    Good to know it'll actually work !

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