Have you seen this?

[Voldemort]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
How do you feel about this stuff?

[Melissa]

I believe we are head that way unless we stand up and fight back

[Voldemort]

I believe we are head that way unless we stand up and fight back

Does this scare you? What would you do if there were concentration camps set up and they were taking a certain type of people & their families AND any who apposed them and their families, would you stand and fight then? If they take away our right to bare arms will you fight,or talk about it? If they censor the Internet will you fight ,or talk about it? It is easy to talk but when will you begin to fight?

Not just Melissa, I'm not targeting her. I'm talking to everyone.

[Mudderoy]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzN55Bpp13E)
How do you feel about this stuff?

What a load of liberal crap. America stood up to the a$$holes that attacked this country, and it is about damn time. Any other prior leader would have MAYBE made one bombing run and watched his pole numbers, while ringing this hands in worry.

President Bush flipped off the rest of the world, the American whinners, and did what he thought was necessary AND STAYED THE COURSE even when it was clear that it was hurting his political party.

That man was/is a leader, and we are unlikely to see that type of person in the Whitehouse for a very very long time.

I cannot say enough good things about our prior commander in chief or our military! Thank you! From myself and my family!

:patriot:

[BlueXJ]

I think it will happen much slower than depicted in that clip but we are headed that way. I think we made a wrong turn with the current administration and are headed towards socialism and eventually communism if we don't wake up. Where would the dems be without a huge tax base. They would not have any money to fund all the give-me programs like the un-needed stimulus packages and bailouts.
America will seek it's level if left alone but the administration seems to want to meddle in everything thus getting government involvement and we all know how they are able to screw up anything they touch.

[Melissa]

Does this scare you? What would you do if there were concentration camps set up and they were taking a certain type of people & their families AND any who apposed them and their families, would you stand and fight then? If they take away our right to bare arms will you fight,or talk about it? If they censor the Internet will you fight ,or talk about it? It is easy to talk but when will you begin to fight?

Not just Melissa, I'm not targeting her. I'm talking to everyone.

This scares the living **** out of me.

I am already fighting, I can grow my own food, live without power, I can become fully self sufficient if need be. I am not in debt with credit, and I use cash 95% of the time, the other 5% I use my debit card. I do not put all of my money in the bank.

If we have to revert back to when you need a gun to protect you, your loved ones, your land, and your neighbors, then so be it, I'll be there.

I am informed and I just don't sit and talk about it, I do what I can.

It is going to take an uprising of our nations people to stop where we are headed, and hell yes, I am ready to fight!!

[firehawk]

Is there ANY way we could clone Ronald Reagan? We needed a President like him back in the '80's, and we sure as hell could use him now!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/kbharbison/ronaldreagan.jpg

[BlueXJ]

American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:


We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course.


Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.


Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.


We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.


You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell, (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them)..


We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine , and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us... You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks and over-sized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone health care if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe health care is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

We'll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you Answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely,
John Q. Public

P.S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheehan, Barbara Streisand, & Jane Fonda with you.

P. S. S. And we won't have to press 1 for English.
__________________

[Voldemort]

What a load of liberal crap. America stood up to the a$$holes that attacked this country, and it is about damn time. Any other prior leader would have MAYBE made one bombing run and watched his pole numbers, while ringing this hands in worry.

President Bush flipped off the rest of the world, the American whinners, and did what he thought was necessary AND STAYED THE COURSE even when it was clear that it was hurting his political party.

That man was/is a leader, and we are unlikely to see that type of person in the Whitehouse for a very very long time.

I cannot say enough good things about our prior commander in chief or our military! Thank you! From myself and my family!

:patriot:
I do not totally agree with him being a great leader but by staying the course he did show integrity and that has been misread as having a alternate agenda. The biggest parts of that video that I worry about is the stuff that is still going on. Loss of gun rights, chips in our skin, North American union, demonstrators put in holding camps during conventions and events, public schools going to shit, Teens knowing more about THE HILLS then what is going on in our government. This stuff is real and has no alternate motive nor judge. It isn't a Democratic or Republication Problem it is our problem.

I think it will happen much slower than depicted in that clip but we are headed that way. I think we made a wrong turn with the current administration and are headed towards socialism and eventually communism if we don't wake up. Where would the dems be without a huge tax base. They would not have any money to fund all the give-me programs like the un-needed stimulus packages and bailouts.
America will seek it's level if left alone but the administration seems to want to meddle in everything thus getting government involvement and we all know how they are able to screw up anything they touch.
If anything man it will happen faster and right under our nose most of this stuff is already here. We have to WAKE UP, get involved and take a stand by getting this stuff in the heads of the fat lazy dumbasses that don't already know what is going on and rather gorge them selves in front of the T.V. watching American Ideal then worry about what are kids will have.

This scares the living **** out of me.

I am already fighting, I can grow my own food, live without power, I can become fully self sufficient if need be. I am not in debt with credit, and I use cash 95% of the time, the other 5% I use my debit card. I do not put all of my money in the bank.

If we have to revert back to when you need a gun to protect you, your loved ones, your land, and your neighbors, then so be it, I'll be there.

I am informed and I just don't sit and talk about it, I do what I can.

It is going to take an uprising of our nations people to stop where we are headed, and hell yes, I am ready to fight!!

Good! I'm glad I am not alone.

[BlueXJ]

Hope you are wrong bigbad.

[AJ99]

ok well i dont agree with Mudd at all about this situation. I do stand up for my fellow americans at war. (i am a future soldier myself). I never supported the war. It has gotten way out of hand. It was no longer a war on terrorism. It had gotten to be a war for oil. Who did Chaney work for? Halliburton. Who was over in Iraq managing the oil situation? Halliburton. I 100% believe Bush wanted to finish what his father could not finish. Also think about it. His dad could not finish Desert Storm. Now Bush came into office and it is the same war but different name. I am not going to get all the way into this and my reasoning because a lot of people do look outside of the box. I dont want to start a big debate about this i just wanted to put my two cents in....

Also i come from a military family. My Grandfather was USN, Uncle was USMC, my Brother-in-law current USAF, my sister-in-law and her husband are future USAF, my other Grandfather was US Army. Three of my buddies are current US Army, and I am a Future US Army

[Mudderoy]

ok well i dont agree with Mudd at all about this situation. I do stand up for my fellow americans at war. (i am a future soldier myself). I never supported the war. It has gotten way out of hand. It was no longer a war on terrorism. It had gotten to be a war for oil. Who did Chaney work for? Halliburton. Who was over in Iraq managing the oil situation? Halliburton. I 100% believe Bush wanted to finish what his father could not finish. Also think about it. His dad could not finish Desert Storm. Now Bush came into office and it is the same war but different name. I am not going to get all the way into this and my reasoning because a lot of people do look outside of the box. I dont want to start a big debate about this i just wanted to put my two cents in....

Also i come from a military family. My Grandfather was USN, Uncle was USMC, my Brother-in-law current USAF, my sister-in-law and her husband are future USAF, my other Grandfather was US Army. Three of my buddies are current US Army, and I am a Future US Army

No problem with you expressing your opinions here. Oil? Yeah that worked out well. :smiley-laughing021: If there were any underlying reason to going into Iraq it would be to have a nice big military presents next to Iran.

[BlueXJ]

We are still going to maintain a military presence in Iraq for many years to come and I think that will not be any deterant to Iran due to their radical leanings against us. They will look upon it as a reason to attack us more than a reason not to.

[AJ99]

Ya that is the worst part. I feel the military will be over there for many years to come. I understand the reason all of this started but i still think it has gone past the point of terrorism.

I wasnt sure how everyone would react with the political discussion because i have a few friends when i speak my opinions that throw a huge fit and get all upity about it.

[BlueXJ]

I doubt that xjtalk will be uppity in any regard. I will be surprized if that happens.

[Melissa]

All opinions are welcome!!

[Voldemort]

I think it is funny that since Obama came into office no one liberal or conservative democrat or republican has even made a peep about the fact that we have not made any effort to change our position in the middle east, at all. Oil was not the objective, the objective was to do what no one has done since the crusades which is set up and sustain a military base in the middle east. Listen take care of your family and your health and live every day like it is the last cause life can take a shitty turn quick.

[Mudderoy]

We are still going to maintain a military presence in Iraq for many years to come and I think that will not be any deterant to Iran due to their radical leanings against us. They will look upon it as a reason to attack us more than a reason not to.

Iran will need to be spanked sooner or later. Having a base next to them is a huge strategic advantage. It may have kept them from doing something up to this point.

Their leaders may SEEM undeterred, but I suspect their people see it as a possible way out of the control their government exerts on them. Well up until Prez. Obo stood around for days before he said anything in support of their 5(?) days of protests. Obama needs to be careful, or more and more countries may break out into democracy!

[firehawk]

ok well i dont agree with Mudd at all about this situation. I do stand up for my fellow americans at war. (i am a future soldier myself). I never supported the war. It has gotten way out of hand. It was no longer a war on terrorism. It had gotten to be a war for oil. Who did Chaney work for? Halliburton. Who was over in Iraq managing the oil situation? Halliburton. I 100% believe Bush wanted to finish what his father could not finish. Also think about it. His dad could not finish Desert Storm. Now Bush came into office and it is the same war but different name. I am not going to get all the way into this and my reasoning because a lot of people do look outside of the box. I dont want to start a big debate about this i just wanted to put my two cents in....

Also i come from a military family. My Grandfather was USN, Uncle was USMC, my Brother-in-law current USAF, my sister-in-law and her husband are future USAF, my other Grandfather was US Army. Three of my buddies are current US Army, and I am a Future US Army

A war for oil??? Sounds like you've bought the media's "explaination" for the war. If we are there for the oil, when are we going to take it? It appears to me we still are at the mercy of OPEC as far as oil is concerned.

Halliburton/Cheney, so what. If you'll look into WHY thay are there you will find they are one of the few, if not the only company capable of doing the job over there. Halliburton/Cheney is an old worn out story, and there has NEVER been any factual information about Cheney profiting from ANY of Halliburton's involvment. It has only been slanderous attacks from the Democrat's and the leftists in the American media.

President George W. Bush's father didn't "finish" the Gulf War because the UN's mandate was to get Hussein out of Kuwait, nothing more. While I will agree we should have gone onto Bagdad and finished the job, we didn't. So it had nothing to do with Bush not being able to finish the job.

President Bush didn't come into office to start/finish a war. Were would you come up with that???? If you remember we were attacked on 9/11, THAT is why George W. went to war. Does anyone wonder how many of billions of dollars we would have spent ANYWAY if we had done nothing and continued the "no fly zones" missions we were on over Iraq. Also all the Iraqi's that would STILL be murdered on a day to day basis if Sadam was still in power?

Think of the BIG picture here.... who is behind most of the terrorism around the world? IRAN is, and now we have them surrounded. The question is now, do we have the will to destroy our enemy? As of now with the piece of s**t we have for a President, I don't think so. The terrorist's cannot be "reasoned" with, they want to destroy us AND western culture. We need to wake up and realize that, and stop pussy footing around with these animals and rid the world of them.

Whew....:smiley-gen165: I'm done now.:D

[Melissa]

pussy footing firehawk???

What does that mean??

JUST KIDDING, nicely said

[firehawk]

Pussy footing, a "nice" way of saying, F**KING AROUND.:thumbsup:

Ask your self, WWJD? And the J dosen't stand for Jesus either!!!:D

[AJ99]

Ok well first of all i dont listen to the media at all. The media shows you what you want they want you to see. I am also neither Rep. or Dem. I am a bit of both. I view the events and everything that has happened a lot differently than most. I just find it really weird about the 9/11 incidents. I have been around construction sites since i was 6. There are too many things about the incidents that dont add up. Also another thing that most people dont realize about the Pentagon is that entire wing that got hit was getting new flooring put in. There were quite a few of Union Floor installers on that wing when it did get hit. A lot of people dont realize that.

Not saying i believe in the whole conspiracy theory but i find it weird that the US does in fact have a the capabilities to fly a 747 all by radio. They had been testing this before 9/11. Mrs. Rice had called the Mayor of San Fransisco the day before and told him to to fly anywhere. Also if you look at the footage there are explosions all the way down the building before the top collapsed. Also there was work being done on the Twin Towers the weeks before the "attack."

For me there are too many links missing in both the conspiracy theory and the terrorism story too. I dont know exactly what i think about it but it just doesnt add up for me. I just feel that if the Government wants to clear everything up and have all Americans back up the country they would clear up the missing pieces. Why isnt our government trying to do this. They work for us so why not inform us of everything going on?

There are just too many secrets going around the country that need to be shared. I love my country and i support the soldiers. I just do not think we need to have as many soldiers over in the middle east as we do. Yes we were attacked by the terrorist. We have been over there way too long. Why havent they found Osama Bin Laden? You would think for as long as we have been there they would have.

Ok im done lol. This is the way i have felt for the entire time. Now as far as the 2012 is concerned i think it is like the Y2k scare.

[firehawk]

Why havent they found Osama Bin Laden? You would think for as long as we have been there they would have.

In my opinion, we know where Bin Laden is. But ask yourself, why would we want to make a martyr out of him? Let him live out his days in a stinking cave KNOWING we could pop a cap in his A$$ anytime we wanted to. IMO a MUCH worse fate than having to appear before some bleeding heart liberal judge in an American court.

As far as the US Government being involved in bombing the World Trade Center, blowing up the Pentagon, and shooting down the plane over Pennsylvania...come on. With all the people that would HAVE to be involved in a scheme like that, and the anal exam the media gave the Bush Administration afterwords, do you REALLY think SOMEONE would not have broken and reveiled the whole thing? Why WOULD the US Government want too anyway? What possible reason could there be?

Why is it so easy for some to accept a "theory" like that, and not simply that terrorists did it? Why not say... ALEINS did it, that theory would be based on as much "fact" as the Government doing it.

[Voldemort]

Ok well first of all i dont listen to the media at all. The media shows you what you want they want you to see. I am also neither Rep. or Dem. I am a bit of both. I view the events and everything that has happened a lot differently than most. I just find it really weird about the 9/11 incidents. I have been around construction sites since i was 6. There are too many things about the incidents that dont add up. Also another thing that most people dont realize about the Pentagon is that entire wing that got hit was getting new flooring put in. There were quite a few of Union Floor installers on that wing when it did get hit. A lot of people dont realize that.

Not saying i believe in the whole conspiracy theory but i find it weird that the US does in fact have a the capabilities to fly a 747 all by radio. They had been testing this before 9/11. Mrs. Rice had called the Mayor of San Fransisco the day before and told him to to fly anywhere. Also if you look at the footage there are explosions all the way down the building before the top collapsed. Also there was work being done on the Twin Towers the weeks before the "attack."

For me there are too many links missing in both the conspiracy theory and the terrorism story too. I dont know exactly what i think about it but it just doesnt add up for me. I just feel that if the Government wants to clear everything up and have all Americans back up the country they would clear up the missing pieces. Why isnt our government trying to do this. They work for us so why not inform us of everything going on?

There are just too many secrets going around the country that need to be shared. I love my country and i support the soldiers. I just do not think we need to have as many soldiers over in the middle east as we do. Yes we were attacked by the terrorist. We have been over there way too long. Why havent they found Osama Bin Laden? You would think for as long as we have been there they would have.

Ok im done lol. This is the way i have felt for the entire time. Now as far as the 2012 is concerned i think it is like the Y2k scare.

I have heard a taped conversion that is supposed to be of David Rockefeller Jr. & a family friend warning him of what was going on and he was telling Him that the owner of the towers had been trying to find a way out of them cause of the amount they cost in repairs and asbestos removal doubled their worth and by 2007 our troops hunting tunnels in the Middle East locking for guys that were not there. I do know that the towers were built to with stand that kind of punishment to the point were everything below should have not been affected. those planes should not have been able to take them down at all let alone at the speed of free fall. Everyone has a right to there opinions, just some make more sense than others.

Were did the 2012 thing come from was that on there too? If so which one the Nubui "planet X" thing, or the planets lining for the first time crap, or what? It all sounds like crap to me. I also believe that the biggest hoax ever created is "Global Warming" The Earth has been around for longer than we even know we are not even sure how long. It has been through meteors hitting it the size of Texas, Climate 20 + Climate changes, Ice ages, Continental land shifts,Huge volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, and Humans are so arrogant that we think that in our little crap speck of time here on Earth that we have effected it to the point of it demise? If anything it will change to get rid of US but the earth will keep on going. Hell they found maps recently that showed Antarctica has two land masses with little to no Ice at all. So that means since Man has had the ability to make maps that Antarctica went from No Ice to a huge mound of glaciers. WTF? I mean what ever happened to the hole in the ozone layer that was going to kill us all??If you open your eyes and mind you will see that we are not as important as we would like to think we are.

[AJ99]

Dont get me wrong i am not saying i totally believe in either one. I think both are big possibilities but not on either side. I can see where it seems like it is a conspiracy but i can also see terrorist doing it.

As far as the 2012 thing what do you all think about that lol. I have a few friends that are freaked out completely and have about 150 to 200 gallons of water stored in their basement and they want to have a total of 1000 to 2000 lol. They have bought all kinds of canned food and spam and a bunch of other things too.

[Voldemort]

Dont get me wrong i am not saying i totally believe in either one. I think both are big possibilities but not on either side. I can see where it seems like it is a conspiracy but i can also see terrorist doing it.

As far as the 2012 thing what do you all think about that lol. I have a few friends that are freaked out completely and have about 150 to 200 gallons of water stored in their basement and they want to have a total of 1000 to 2000 lol. They have bought all kinds of canned food and spam and a bunch of other things too.

Which 2012 thing are they afraid of? I have heard of two or three different reasons that the world will end. Everyone keeps saying that it is the end of the Mayan calender, So? That does not mean that is when the world will end just means that is all they did. I mean if they were so smart then the would have been able to stop the Spanish from kicking their asses into extinction.