Project: "Rigor Mortis"

[4.3LXJ]

Yes, your Jeep has not punished you properly yet

[Pookapotamus]

3 engine rebuilds and you don't think I've been punished??? Better change your name to 4.3l nazi!!!!


Translated from Pookanese.

[4.3LXJ]

You are close :D

[Pookapotamus]

well new valve seals did nothing! Must be bad oil rings, still showing 185 psi in all cylinders for compression.

:bang:

[4.3LXJ]

Will it never cease? What brand of rings you using?

[Pookapotamus]

i think these are je pistons

[4.3LXJ]

Not smoking when your foot has the skinny pedal on the floor?

[Pookapotamus]

Yup smokes when accelerating, or decelerating, idling it seems fine.


Translated from Pookanese.

[4.3LXJ]

Have you pulled a plug yet?

[Pookapotamus]

Yup they were fairly clean


Translated from Pookanese.

[4.3LXJ]

Is your crank case ventilated enough? You might try running a hose off the top that is nice and large, like garden hose size

[Pookapotamus]

Well.... Mort : 1 Aussie locker : 0


Lunched something in the rear on the way home. Locker still works, no noise under power, but decelerating makes tones of noise!


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[4.3LXJ]

Uh oh

[Pookapotamus]

Uh oh is right Steve!!!!
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[Pookapotamus]

At least the Aussie looks ok!


Having 4WD means getting stuck in more inaccessible places!

[Pookapotamus]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/11/7e41d84d87996e84c11cc3385ebee990.jpg

Completely missing 2 bolts!


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[Pookapotamus]

Well I think I might just weld the ring to the carrier for now, polish the couple teeth that are pitted and start saving!


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[abebehrmann]

Man I'm sorry Dana, that sucks! How do you think that happened? Did you use loctite on those bolts? When I was doing my locker install, I kept reading conflicting things on whether to use it or not.


Nevermind, I looked at the pic again and see that they just sheared in half! That's crazy!

[Pookapotamus]

Ya they were loctighted don't know why they backed out!!!????

Might just be another chance to upgrade!

Better suck up to the wife!


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[NC_Xplorer]

Awesome build thread. I really liked all the attention you put into the little things that make it unique.

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[Pookapotamus]

Awesome build thread. I really liked all the attention you put into the little things that make it unique.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk


Thanks!


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[4.3LXJ]

I wonder if they torqued the bolts correctly. Never seen them back out like that

[Pookapotamus]

I built it myself Steve, I'm the one that torqued them!


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[4.3LXJ]

Hmmm, did you use new bolts?

[Pookapotamus]

Yup, and locktight. I have been wondering if the ratcheting from the Aussie caused them to back out??


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[4.3LXJ]

I took my ring gear off to install my Lokka. I used the impact on medium setting to install. No problems in four years. I wonder if the lock tight had something to do with it. I have never used that with rear end bolts, nor have I known any builders to do it.

[EEP-Alta]

Dana any idea what caused the bolts to back out? Very strange!
P.S. I pick up my clayton kit on Tuesday next week. Thanks for all the advice, info.

[Pookapotamus]

No idea bill, just my luck I guess


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[Pookapotamus]

One of the local jeep club members drew this up for me, the plan is to make a couple t-shirts!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/24cb0b736b57204aaaee672bdf61fa31.jpg


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[4.3LXJ]

Very nice Dana. But won't he have to redraw for Rinzler?

[Pookapotamus]

If and that's a huge if I ever get to build Rinzler. Yup he will have to do another one.


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[4.3LXJ]

Rinzler Racing?

[bruggz351]

One of the local jeep club members drew this up for me, the plan is to make a couple t-shirts!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/24cb0b736b57204aaaee672bdf61fa31.jpg


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That's very good.
I'd buy it.[emoji51] [emoji106]

Sent from my FRED

[XJ Wheeler]

One of the local jeep club members drew this up for me, the plan is to make a couple t-shirts!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/24cb0b736b57204aaaee672bdf61fa31.jpg


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That's awesome! May have to use that as inspiration for my personal drawings.

Sent via messenger pigeon. I talk, he types.

[Pookapotamus]

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Mort??? Mort? Are you in there buddy???


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[4.3LXJ]

Help me, I can't breath ….

[bruggz351]

One good backfire will clear that lot. ;)
Push hard, Mort..... :-)

Sent from my FRED

[Pookapotamus]

Well I am a tool! First class! No locktight on the ring gear bolts! I have lots! Why I did not put some on is beyond me!


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[xj-jake]

Bummer Dana that sucks. I questioned that when I put the lunchbox in my 44 and actually the directions for the locker said to used blue locktite so I did and so far no issues...

[Carves]

Well I am a tool! First class! No locktight on the ring gear bolts! I have lots! Why I did not put some on is beyond me!


Bugger ...

Maybe you got too excited about getting it finished.


Ohhhh .... and you're supposed to get the vehicle out ... Before turning your garage into a disorganised, unusable mess .. ;);)


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[Pookapotamus]

Ha! Mort broke down first!


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[Pookapotamus]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/01/6e3f0fabf75354730a33d8f03105e744.jpg

Proof I did it this time!


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[4.3LXJ]

With pics and everything

[Pookapotamus]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/01/519cc14d1a6b469c4d244a1371f42078.jpg

Hopefully get to installing this tomorrow!


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[4.3LXJ]

Pretty shiny stuff there Pook

[Pookapotamus]

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Might have to do some relocating!


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[4.3LXJ]

Small remodel :D

[Pookapotamus]

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Finished the rear diff, backed mort out of the garage, noticed a gas leak and this!


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[4.3LXJ]

Is that an extra tire stud Dana?

[Pookapotamus]

Was jus a 4" screw, went in on a nice angle!

Took mort for a quick drive, rear diff sounds great! A little noise on light decel, but I think that has to do with the preload on the pinion, it's too high, but I'm not going to worry about that right now.


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[4.3LXJ]

Good to see it moving under its own power again. All the bugs worked out now?

[Pookapotamus]

Front diff, the oil slinger looks like it's seen better days, should I remove it???
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Having 4WD means getting stuck in more inaccessible places!

[4.3LXJ]

I think replace is a better option. But if it is not interfering with anything it will still sling oil

[Pookapotamus]

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Was going to install these

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But my shafts look like they are tapered and larger.

Anybody seen this before???


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[Pookapotamus]

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Well can't turn it down.


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[4.3LXJ]

Well now, that is interesting. I haven't seen that before. Must be some Canuck thing?

[Pookapotamus]

I was thinking it was because they are from an abs axle.


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[4.3LXJ]

I haven't had much experience with ABS

[xj-jake]

Um yeah that is and interesting thing. I have not seen that either. The HP 30 in mine is an ABS axle and does not have that.

[Pookapotamus]

Mort is all back together and driving great!


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[4.3LXJ]

:congrats:

[Pookapotamus]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/06/da60997d7c96533a3746036c081bb72f.jpg

What is this? And do I need it??


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[bruggz351]

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What is this? And do I need it??


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That's a wigwam for a gooses bridal. Do you have geese?
They can be used on turkeys, but not for riding, only leading. Apparently it can get caught in his wobler.

Sent from my FRED

[Pookapotamus]

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Before: not much room to fit the dual filters.

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Gutted , cleaned and started planing.

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Modified the existing fuse block bracket to move the fuse block over, up and forward.

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Then mounted the dual filter to the base of the fuse block bracket

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[Pookapotamus]

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On the other side I have tons of room so the vacuum ball and over flow will be mounted over here.

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I'm going to have to check to see if the right hand drive XJ has the overflow bottle mirrored, if so it will fit perfectly! If not this works great!


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[Pookapotamus]

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Removed the filter and fitted the adapter and hoses.

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Test fit everything, then got to work routing the hoses, cleaning up the electrical and the heater hoses.

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That is how it sits now, I will finish up the electrical and build another bracket for the overflow and vacuum ball, then redo the vacuum lines.


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[4.3LXJ]

Very nice Dana, and sanitary as usual. I thought that valve looked like it came from a closed system, but was not sure

[Pookapotamus]

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Well all done! And oil capacity is 7.5L probably 8L completely dry.




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[Pookapotamus]

Very nice Dana, and sanitary as usual. I thought that valve looked like it came from a closed system, but was not sure


It is an evaporative emission control valve, sucks the fumes from the tank and runs them into the throttle body.

Or in my case, sits in a drawer and does nothing!
I am throwing a code for it but I'm just ignoring that until I get a mega squirt!


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[4.3LXJ]

Ah, OK. Yeah, not all that necessary. In fact, if you put a resistor on the plug that has the same resistance as the valve you could probably get rid of the code

[Pookapotamus]

Cool!


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[Pookapotamus]

Me the wife and Mort, headed 2 hours north today to go to a jeep show and shine, ended up winning most flexible rig for 36" and below tire size.
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[4.3LXJ]

Very cool Dana

[Pookapotamus]

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[4.3LXJ]

Nice trophy. Those creative ones are the best kind

[Pookapotamus]

Yup, means more than a generic one!


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[XJ Wheeler]

Awesome trophy! Makes all that money you spent on a rear coil conversion a little more worth it eh! :D

Sent via messenger pigeon. I talk, he types.

[Pookapotamus]

Yes and no!

The fact that mort showed up at least 20 jk's that were on 35's with 5 pounds of tire shine, THAT makes it all worth while!

Must have been 50 or 60 jeeps there in total!


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[xj-jake]

Yes and no!

The fact that mort showed up at least 20 jk's that were on 35's with 5 pounds of tire shine, THAT makes it all worth while!

Must have been 50 or 60 jeeps there in total!


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5 Pounds of tire shine. Yup that about nails it! Congrats Dana that's pretty sweet. I still envy the hell outta Mort. Such a nice rig.

[Pookapotamus]

Thanks jake, makes me proud, hopefully I can get out and prove myself on the trails more.

Would also love to head south and wheel with some XJ talk members.


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[Pinkyman]

Woah.... 4 hours and 56 pages later...

I laughed, i cried, i cried some more, and i drooled a little.

It was like reading a short book. By page 48 i wasnt sure if it was going to end in success, or turmoil. Edge of my seat excitement the whole time!

*FIVE STARS!!!* Well done, what an amazing build with attention to every detail!

[Pookapotamus]

Thanks Pinkyman! There is still tones to come!

Start a build thread yourself so we can see what you've done!

Pook


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[Pookapotamus]

i have been thinking of updating Mort's appearance lately, possible with the liberty headlight conversion. also want to redo the front and rear bumpers in aluminium to shed some weight.

and I found these, http://www.carid.com/1992-jeep-cherokee-headlights/winjet-conversion-euro-headlights-55573468.html#product-details-tab

[abebehrmann]

and I found these, http://www.carid.com/1992-jeep-cherokee-headlights/winjet-conversion-euro-headlights-55573468.html#product-details-tab

Pfffff, YELLOW! That sure is a stupid color.:smiley-scared003:

[Pookapotamus]

ouch!!! right in the ego!!!

[4.3LXJ]

Nah, wouldn't look good. Poor at night anyway.

[Pookapotamus]

Ya I think I have some good ideas.


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[Pookapotamus]

well it looks like stak 4x4 is no longer in buissness, so it looks like I will have to go with an atlas for a transfer case upgrade, now atlas 2 or atlas 4???? hmmm

Can I still get a ebrake mounted on the atlas???

[4.3LXJ]

There is a reason Stak is no longer in business. It looked good, but they had a tendency to pop out of gear. He never did get that resolved. As for the Atlas. You can get the Atlas 2 and upgrade later if you don't mind redoing your drive shafts. You can use either the 231 doubler or the Klune V and add them in. The dilemma you will find is which ratios you want. As far as an E brake goes, I did this

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/IMG_0266.jpg

This is from Parts Mike and can be gotten directly from him or through Tom Woods. I massaged the stock ebrake handle to make it work. But I think I am going to adapt a Chevy pickup foot brake to work it instead and take advantage of some console space

[EEP-Alta]

Dana, I was also thinking of atlas 2 case. Will need to see what you decide lol.

[Pookapotamus]

That looks awesome Steve! As for gear ratios, it would be nice to get the third ratio around 4:1 then could have the 4th ratio super low, you know for moving mountains!!!!

Do you think if we order 2 we could get a deal bill???


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[4.3LXJ]

The ratios I have are 2.7, 3.8, 10.38. I use them all around here. 2.7 you already have and is a good trail ratio. 3.8 is a great rock ratio, but is too slow for most trails. 10.38 is really slow, 11 mph with a 30% overdrive for anything but large rocks. But is really great then because you can just idle through the big ones. No deals on quantity though. They build each one custom order

[Pookapotamus]

Well it looks like I'm having cam crank sync issues again! Wonder if this is ecm related, almost time to toss out chrysler's crappy computer and go mega squirt!


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[4.3LXJ]

I am sure the Mega Squirt will be better. Have you dug into this far enough to know if you can hook up an OBDII scanner to it?

[Pookapotamus]

I don't think you can hook up an external, but it has its own diagnosis system on board, gives the same codes.


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[4.3LXJ]

I was just wondering. The engine in the Jeep is getting just plain worn out. Over 300K on it. There are several engines that I would love to use, but I would like to use the Mega Squirt with them. They have variable cam timing etc.

[Pookapotamus]

That mega squirt will run anything! I'll do a write up when I get mine.


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[4.3LXJ]

I know it will, I have the smog police to contend with here. They have to be able to hook up to it with the right plug

[Pookapotamus]

Oh! Yup that might be interesting, shoot them an email, they answered my questions really fast!

Unfortunately the exchange rate is horrible right now, and I need to get a bunch of wire and other parts to install mine, and finish my wiring diagram for all the changes I want to make.


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[4.3LXJ]

You need a friend on this side of the border to make the purchase then :D

[Pookapotamus]

Still have to do the exchange rate though, and I do! His name is 4.3l xj!


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[Pookapotamus]

Well I rooted around under the hood, found a little corrosion on the cps sensor connector, fiddled with the distributor, noticed only one side of the rotor was burnt and the pins in the cap were only burnt on one side, so turned the distributor a bit and finally got the p01391 code to clear! First time in a long time the engine light has been off !!!!


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[4.3LXJ]

Hey :congrats: It is the little things isn't it. Those PCMs are sure fussy

[Pookapotamus]

Can't wait to get rid of it!


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[4.3LXJ]

I know what you mean. Been fighting my own stupid idiosyncrasies on mine.

[Pookapotamus]

Well 12 whole hours with no engine light! That must be some kind of a record!!!


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[4.3LXJ]

Mine doesn't come on even when something is wrong :D

[blazer2]

Well 12 whole hours with no engine light! That must be some kind of a record!!!

Pull off the tape so you can see the engine light:rolleye0012:

[Pookapotamus]

Ordered a new piston, new rings and a couple other goodies, preparing to swap trannys, and get mort running tip top!


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[Pookapotamus]

Also ordered this
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Can you guess what I'm up to?


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[abebehrmann]

Also ordered this
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160218/54c60a55c2d2cb53a61a4b88a9a198a0.jpg
Can you guess what I'm up to?


Having 4WD means getting stuck in more inaccessible places!

Looks like you're figuring a means to pay for all the upgrades Mort is getting. Breaking Bad style... :rolleye0012:

[4.3LXJ]

Can't quite make out the name in the image, but by any chance does this have to do with a Megasquirt?

[Pookapotamus]

Lol yup just call me Heisenberg!

Sorry Steve not yet!

I'm gearing up to balance pistons and connecting rods, and do some blueprinting while I have mort open. Even found a place to balance my crank, I am going to try to do this all very thoroughly and post every step I take.


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[4.3LXJ]

Ah, a scale. Couldn't tell from the low res pic. I have a balance beam scale that will measure down to 0.01 grams, which is about one and half gnats eyebrows

[Pookapotamus]

Ok so I finally decided that I will use the lighter 6 counterweight crank that I have instead of the 12 weight I have in mort right now.
So the first step was to pull it from the pile, and give it a quick clean.
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Then I set it up in the lathe, so I can work on deburing, trimming the nose and cleaning up the bearing surfaces.
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And then stupidity reared it ugly head!

I was rushing, not really thinking, measured the nose of the crank at 54mm, knowing that I need to take off 10mm. Now the stupid thing is, most 258 cranks are 64mm snout, and need to be trimmed to accept the 4.0L harmonic balancer.

This is a late model 258 crank that is already at 54mm and does not need to be trimmed, of course I didn't figure this out until I took off 7mm and the number 54 finally clicked in my head, and I checked the interwebs.

So I now have a snub nose crank! No biggie I can fix it, just machine a spacer and I'm good, but I feel silly, the nose of the crank was just fine until I played with it! What a way to start this round of mods!

Sigh!


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[blazer2]

At least you caught it.
Man I miss working in a machine shop having them kind of tools handy.

[Pookapotamus]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160223/7332e2c0562d532b2bba379b045ae27f.jpgbrown Santa stopped by today, with any luck mort won't sound like a tractor this time!


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[Pookapotamus]

Ok today I started the deburing process, http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160224/b4e59388fca4a60e69c579a19a084d65.jpg
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These pics show the seam created when the crank was forged, we want to get rid of this because it is a stress point where cracks can start.
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First thing was to protect the journals from flying debris, even though I am going to be polishing them I don't need to slip and take a gouge out and make more work for myself.
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The I did a rough grind to get the majority of flash off.
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Then out came the die grinder with a carbide bit and flap wheels, turned out pretty good!
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So now it's ready to go into the walnut blaster for a good clean and then back onto the lathe to clean up the journals!


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[Pookapotamus]

Sweet! Brown Santa showed up again!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/38df014762dd7d9c1b6566c88b65637d.jpg
It's a massive box so I'm giddy, there is going to be all kinds of awesome in there!!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/d30d4e2cd12fb1e5665c8f0c880302b8.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/30846e3d7adf40ea8d107eb4fb672679.jpg
Or tons of air! And a few itty bitty parts!


Well at least the cats are happy!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/c4c817a6c665c7f76608178e16da32e7.jpg


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[abebehrmann]

Sweet! Brown Santa showed up again!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/38df014762dd7d9c1b6566c88b65637d.jpg
It's a massive box so I'm giddy, there is going to be all kinds of awesome in there!!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/d30d4e2cd12fb1e5665c8f0c880302b8.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/30846e3d7adf40ea8d107eb4fb672679.jpg
Or tons of air! And a few itty bitty parts!


Well at least the cats are happy!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/c4c817a6c665c7f76608178e16da32e7.jpg


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It was nice of Summit to send you a free extra large cat trap with your engine parts.

[Pookapotamus]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/6d5f1e7ba9e951216a4614467400b4ab.jpg

Got to work finishing up the crank, you can see the difference on the mains, a 10 second polish does and they all cleaned up really nice.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/2826804d69fa79f224a5839d918754f4.jpg

So I went over all the bearings with 400 grit, then a good polish with 600 grit, tossed it in the varsol cleaner, chased the threads, and cleaned out the oil galleries.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/ea62fdb5f3f309216eb78d21f68c6139.jpg

And now it's ready for installation!


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[blazer2]

Looks good

[Pookapotamus]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160302/0f8ee0045eebe05ced0bd11fdb831b1c.jpg

It has begun!


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[4.3LXJ]

Oh crap, someone took the front of your Jeep :smiley-taunt002:

[Pookapotamus]

Mort sneezed too hard!


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[4.3LXJ]

A bit early for allergies in Canada :D

[4.3LXJ]

Maybe it was the Ford parts :D

[Pookapotamus]

Definitely the Ford parts Steve!

In other news, brown Santa showed up with the rest of Mort's parts!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160304/35a19a101925e311d893869d1de475fd.jpg




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[4.3LXJ]

Woo hoo, :gitrdun:

[blazer2]

What ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ he said :bacondance:

[oderdene]

Woohooooo

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[Pookapotamus]

Pulled the stroker today, did a compression test before not too impressed with the numbers, will have to see if I can even it out when it goes back together. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160308/18d3eec1f142cbd2eca222cfdecc84d4.jpg


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[4.3LXJ]

This have short pistons?

[Pookapotamus]

This have short pistons?


No can't quite afford forged yet.


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[4.3LXJ]

What I am wondering is if you are getting pistons rocking back and forth from having short skirts and making the rings not seat well. After all, you have broken some rings the first time around

[Pookapotamus]

These are the metric Pistons that I turned to accept the imperial rings I had, I knew they would not seal the greatest! Hence why I am swapping out the Pistons now, but I obviously did something right on # 5 and 6!


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[4.3LXJ]

Oh, OK, now I understand better. I hope this one lasts better for you. One of these days, we will have to meet in the middle at Yellowstone and then do some wheeling. Wonder if I need shots to go to Canada

[Pookapotamus]

Tore down the stroker today, firstly found this! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160308/7570c44fa189334cd84c9079a275aa26.jpg
A bunch of bad bearings! Looks like this tear down was timed just great!

Weighed all my con rods, the set that was in mort is on the right.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160308/a92507b3c4ba274730dc60cda391b3d8.jpg
I would be happy with those weights except in this pic you can see some issues.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160308/21b388ea15f283ccb0547109e431ca13.jpg
The 2 far right rods, have the small end off centre a bit, and the far left has a massive balance pad on the big end and about the same size on the small end, what this tells me is that since it weighs the same as the rest it probably has less metal in the centre beam than the rest making it weaker.

They are all the same casting number 707, even though the one on the left looks much finer and not as grainy. The other 2 sets have casting number 352 and there are a few that have issues with them to, but I could come up with a set of 6 that are flawless and balanced perfectly, I still have to build a rig to check the balance on the rods, but I doubt that one on the far left could be brought close to the rest.

Or I could mix casting numbers and get a good set as well, my research on the casting numbers has not really led to an answer on which casting is stronger, some people say there is no difference between the two, some say the 707's are stronger.

Anyone have any info on this?? Opinions?




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[Pookapotamus]

And here is a pic of the two cranks for your viewing pleasure! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160308/bea34e7471295d8a4f27ac4295f6ffad.jpg


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[4.3LXJ]

What kind of oil are you using? Those bearings don't look good

[Pookapotamus]

I've been using 10-40 quakerstate, toying with the idea of switching to synthetic


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[4.3LXJ]

I am not sure I like synthetic. I switched to it in my Subaru with turbo. Wasn't making it, even though it is recommended now. I switched back to Valvoline Racing oil and added Power Punch. World if difference in the turbo and VVT function, which works off oil pressure

[Pookapotamus]

I've been on the fence too, especially since the 4.0l is flat tappet


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[4.3LXJ]

Racing oil is made for flat tappet engines, since many of then have flat tappet cams with high lifts

[Pookapotamus]

Here you can see better pics of the defects.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160309/2af1f226ae14a67aca68f5a587534695.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160309/0b04ae4406a0b5e9dfd84f4e6e220e03.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160309/f2cb035c9dbb1a910495ff63d8672104.jpg


I have chosen the best from the 12 352 casting rods, the 707's only had 2 good rods out of the 6 and the 2 good were no better than the ones I picked from the 352's
Now I can pick the lightest one and start cleaning it up!


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[Pookapotamus]

I did lots today but only took the one picture
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160312/7d122c0d748a414c195397b93a660ddd.jpg
Yes that's Mort's block in the sink, honed all the cylinders, have some scoring in a couple but not too worried about it.

All 6 Pistons are now within .1 grams of each other.

Also cleaned the block and got it ready for reassembly, just need to get a rear seal. And have to order a set of arp connecting rod bolts so that I can start balancing the con rods.


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[Pookapotamus]

Ok so here are the Pistons,
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/600c4d319ed005ee854ce8571eab790b.jpg
As you can see they are all very close in weight now
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/d3900ea857965ba19adc19e02021b984.jpg
This was the lightest and you can see not much has been done to it, all edges have been softened and that's really it.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/8d00611fa19aad1cfe610c419a01d11d.jpg
And this was the heaviest, I had to remove 7 grams to get this one to weight, as you can see I had to remove quite a bit.


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[Outlaw star]

Looking good man.

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[blazer2]

When you get done i have 4.3 that needs done.

[4.3LXJ]

I have a 4.3 that needs to be rebuilt too :D

[blazer2]

Was yours do to neglect? My nephew didn't check small oil leek.
And it turned into catastrophic oil lose. The cooler lines went.

[4.3LXJ]

No, mine is due to 300K. You do have to keep the cooler lines with fresh O rings, or they will leak. They get hard quickly. I have a 93 and I am putting my third set of injectors in it. Those just don'e last, even with getting GM stuff. I think I will go to a different Chevy engine, depending on what CA smog police will let me put in

[blazer2]

I had a blazerZR2
That 4.3 had 350k on her. And yes general maintenance is key.
Yank that 4.3 out and drop in a TB350
I love Indiana and Ohio is we don't have the smog police.
What makes me mad is that i told him a week ago to have it looked at.
It would have saved him alot of $$$$$$$$$ and time

[4.3LXJ]

Smog police won't let me do that. I can only go forward. Money is the key here and what I do will be determined by how much I can bring in before next winter when I will start it. But let us not hijack Dana's thread :sign0101:

[Pookapotamus]

Ok back on topic! :)

More parts showed up from summit,
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/4f70c40235689886b7b54f9683f198aa.jpg
For the block ready, cleaned all surfaces and made sure it's clean.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/5acd430f409b6d2f7467baf4c3e037fe.jpg
Lubed up the cam and installed it
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/2ed4d454ff5ff73a24c7852ad5f377d8.jpg
Then found out the new bearings don't fit and had to modify the block!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/e74be3fd0f35d6282c2c8f5793910fc3.jpg
Cleaned all the fillings out and installed the bearings!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/6a3b4203e2ef0dc5471463589e1601f8.jpg
Added some silicone for the rear main
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/1a0cdc6b67e811a3a3b80275e3591582.jpg
And installed it
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/a2584f6a6e5a22c772f7e806df08f004.jpg
Lubed up the bearings
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/7f983f0e9244d9a7806d53bc688b2888.jpg
And dropped the new crank in place
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/ce3eacb7b11890bb0c8153de68303407.jpg
Installed the bearings in the caps, and bolted and torqued them in place
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/47f8cb2d139276eee165e8a9eea78caa.jpg
Added spacers and installed the new stiffener bar
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/3a316800f20a6a1eca2e7190dd9bbb18.jpg


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[Pookapotamus]

Bolted the oil pump back in place, then found this!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/b0250210cb297b047c107be95c172453.jpg
Oil pan no longer fits, because the stiffener bar has to be spaced away from the crank so that the longer throw of the 258 crank has enough clearance, it now forces the oil pan away from the block by about 3/8". Not sure how I'm going to fix this, most likely cut apart a couple of the oil pans that I have kicking around to make the front section of the pan deeper. And since I'm cutting and grinding the pan apart I might as well fix the drain plug on it so that when I change oil I can get that last half litre out of the pan that the design of the plug conveniently keeps in there!

Any body have any thoughts or ideas for pan mods while I'm at it?

I was contemplating modifying the 258 pan, thoughts on this is: the sloped back of the pan would keep more oil around the pick up during climbing... Maybe??? I guess I'll start researching pan design before I start.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/52c618db3c2810b822b423b30e2721b9.jpg

Was also thinking about building lower braces from the transmission to the block, use more than 4 bolts to bolt up the tranny!


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[Pookapotamus]

Then I cleaned up the rods where the studs are, then pressed in the new arp bolts!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/8b870608e104cd16ebd16990350425bc.jpg
And only scratched threads on 6 of them! :(

Also did the rough Grind on all the rods, now I can build the scale and get them balanced
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/ccc169a2423fae21b3b4dc4a27695337.jpg
Planning on having the Pistons back in before Monday!


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[GoneWithTheWind]

Bolted the oil pump back in place, then found this!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/b0250210cb297b047c107be95c172453.jpg
Oil pan no longer fits, because the stiffener bar has to be spaced away from the crank so that the longer throw of the 258 crank has enough clearance, it now forces the oil pan away from the block by about 3/8". Not sure how I'm going to fix this, most likely cut apart a couple of the oil pans that I have kicking around to make the front section of the pan deeper. And since I'm cutting and grinding the pan apart I might as well fix the drain plug on it so that when I change oil I can get that last half litre out of the pan that the design of the plug conveniently keeps in there!

Any body have any thoughts or ideas for pan mods while I'm at it?
Add some baffles to the bottom of the pan to keep the oil from sloshin' around. They can help keep oil near the oil pick up when your at an angle.:D <<< oops! <<< <<< <<<

I was contemplating modifying the 258 pan, thoughts on this is: the sloped back of the pan would keep more oil around the pick up during climbing... Maybe??? I guess I'll start researching pan design before I start.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/52c618db3c2810b822b423b30e2721b9.jpg

Was also thinking about building lower braces from the transmission to the block, use more than 4 bolts to bolt up the tranny!


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[Carves]

Bolted the oil pump back in place, then found this! ..........................................

Any body have any thoughts or ideas for pan mods while I'm at it?


Sounds like you have it covered,

Drain plug,
Deeper pan,
Baffles as mentioned by WAS95X,


... all win win, imho

[4.3LXJ]

Bolted the oil pump back in place, then found this!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/b0250210cb297b047c107be95c172453.jpg
Oil pan no longer fits, because the stiffener bar has to be spaced away from the crank so that the longer throw of the 258 crank has enough clearance, it now forces the oil pan away from the block by about 3/8". Not sure how I'm going to fix this, most likely cut apart a couple of the oil pans that I have kicking around to make the front section of the pan deeper. And since I'm cutting and grinding the pan apart I might as well fix the drain plug on it so that when I change oil I can get that last half litre out of the pan that the design of the plug conveniently keeps in there!

Any body have any thoughts or ideas for pan mods while I'm at it?

I was contemplating modifying the 258 pan, thoughts on this is: the sloped back of the pan would keep more oil around the pick up during climbing... Maybe??? I guess I'll start researching pan design before I start.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160318/52c618db3c2810b822b423b30e2721b9.jpg

Was also thinking about building lower braces from the transmission to the block, use more than 4 bolts to bolt up the tranny!


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I had ot do the same thing when I stuffed a 351W into my 69 Bronco

[Carves]

actually .......

Now that Im a bit more awake and on coffee #3,

I remembered, That I chucked something in the trailer for you last night .....


Crank access will be easier for you,
It wont need oilpan mods ... hell, it doesnt even need an oilpan,


... and being an old, "hit & miss", motor ... it will sound just like a stroked 4.0l .. :D:D


http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Buzacott/Buzacott%2001b_zpsdaaxhv7w.jpg

[Pookapotamus]

actually .......

Now that Im a bit more awake and on coffee #3,

I remembered, That I chucked something in the trailer for you last night .....


Crank access will be easier for you,
It wont need oilpan mods ... hell, it doesnt even need an oilpan,


... and being an old, "hit & miss", motor ... it will sound just like a stroked 4.0l .. :D:D


http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Buzacott/Buzacott%2001b_zpsdaaxhv7w.jpg

all i would have to do is spray it yellow and bolt it in!!! Pook want!!!

[4.3LXJ]

Since you don't mind a few extra pounds, how about this fine compressor. Only takes about 40 hp to run it. That wide belt is handy too. You can use it as a leather strop while it is running. You would have enough air for the whole Jeep club :D

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/Downieville%20Trip/IMG_1363_zpsyk4qtejp.jpg

[Pookapotamus]

Lol! Mort needs to go on a diet!


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[Pookapotamus]

Finished up the polish on the rods, although I have not been able to balance them, I have built 5 different rigs and still can't get a good measurement for weight, have to decide what to do.

And got some done on the pan, firstly removed the old trayhttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/eb97f30f2187703469adacd6ba28ac2d.jpg
Then cut out the offending metal
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/a6ca6e335249a2e19263d2ca10381b90.jpg
And welded in a new piece
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/a2993ceb1090142f0f82736862b55113.jpg


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[4.3LXJ]

Nicely done Dana

[XJ Wheeler]

Good work! I like the solution you came up with. Simple and cheap.

Sent via messenger pigeon. I talk, he types.

[Pookapotamus]

Finally built a rig that would work to balance the rods, this design did not make the cut but I forgot to take a pick of the one I used!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/eef89609cdd72eceda888c19e6216576.jpg

Then I assembled all the Pistons and installed them!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/d710d5e4c706bf675f472f4eebe34370.jpg

And holy cow! I bought a new ring compressor, one of the tapered aluminum jobs! Works great!! Barely have to put any pressure to get the piston into the cylinder!


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[4.3LXJ]

Nice work Dana. When you get around to installing the camshaft, here is one that will give you a little extra lift :D

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/Downieville%20Trip/IMG_1368_zpsssddd5t0.jpg

[Pookapotamus]

What is that in Steve??


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[4.3LXJ]

It is a camshaft for a stamp, a method of grinding rock and gold to powder so the gold could be dissolved into mercury covered metal sheets for separation later

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/Downieville%20Trip/IMG_1369_zpscolxjewz.jpg

Each one of those stamps weighs 1100 pounds. The only one not blocked up there was one I spun the water wheel for and raised it and let it drop. Really loud

[Pookapotamus]

Cool!


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[Pookapotamus]

Ok not sure if I'm proud of this upgrade or not, I have never liked the connection between engine and tranny in the xj, 2, 3/8" bolts and 2, 7/16" bolts just does not feel like enough to support the tranny. Now I've never heard of one failing, but I still decided to do something about it.

So I started with an internal slave bellhousing,
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/209ecdfa032d14cee33338b0ee16ca44.jpg
Broke out the plasma and cut the ring off of it,
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/9c09953045d4096c8df089476182e3f3.jpg
I picked up some longer bolts for the engine stand, and after modifying the ring so it would mate to the stand, I bolted where it belongs,
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/f4bf4c403ca15f750bfbf03b1a1a1417.jpg
Then I bolted the head back on, with the pan, starter and header in place I can now see clearances and get to work
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/bc5af97c631f5ca887d58b12adf56b5b.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/37d355cc11fc219988a1435c010f3bb0.jpg
I bolted a piece of 1"X1/8" square tube between the lower bolt holes in the bell housing then The pass side was easy, a quick notch, bolt the engine mount in place, and tacked the tube to that,
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/4cf472a4ce185f9c22424b652ae44eff.jpg
The drivers side is a completely different animal though, no clearance between pan and header, and have to keep in mind that the third link on the front suspension also resides in this space, so I had to go over top of the pan and have a few bends in the tube, looks kind of mad max like, but it will add strength,
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/ccd7c670bb047102c74557069a2e4531.jpg
Also added a gusset at both mounts to pick up a 4th bolt for each mount
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/ef6ab2214d35b32a426f76ddf88f4844.jpg

I know it's not pretty but it should help relieve some stress on the upper 3/8" bolts in the bellhousing and also might add a pan skid, for a little more protection at the rear of the pan.

So what does everybody think?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/bd22bdbf7097d5b4e912141e1bf49752.jpg


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[abebehrmann]

So what does everybody think?



I'm impressed.

[Carves]

So what does everybody think?


I think ... you will have to lengthen your tailshaft,

... now that you've shortened the bell housing.


Or ... is that so you can get the 6x6 mod to fit ??


.. :p .. :D



Looking forward to seeing how it all goes, once its assembled .. :thumbsup:

[Outlaw star]

Nice. Just an idea for you to consider, but looking at the angle of that box steel, you could use that as a mount for a small fabricated skid plate for your oil pan.

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[Pookapotamus]

I was totally thinking that too, but I have now decided against using this, just not happy with it, I have a new more simple design, it will require new motor mounts but will be cleaner and stronger! With a possible brace for the front.


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[4.3LXJ]

Just looking at that Dana, I was thinking flat plate would be as strong or stronger and not give you any clearance problems

[Pookapotamus]

Great minds think alike!


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[4.3LXJ]

Ha, thought about using aluminum plate?

[Pookapotamus]

Yes but I only have 1/8" thick aluminum!


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[4.3LXJ]

You can find small pieces of plate on line. The trick to using it is that you need to cut to shape with a sawsall so you don't heat the center of it by welding and loose the T6 hardness. You could weld the ends no problem and not have any problems. Or you could do what Cheyy did and use a straight brace that goes all the way to the front

[Outlaw star]

Great minds think alike!


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Yup. Say does your butt itch too? Lol (Old Ren & Stimpy joke)

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[Pookapotamus]

I miss Ren & Stimpy!


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[Pookapotamus]

Reworked the pan today, did not really like how the old one came together, wanted the drop to be deeper, so came up with thishttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160329/bc894d8cd4a60f430b4c3d5562961049.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160329/b6f4a335e4dbcae469e848060ab13d44.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160329/582b21f3212f4c8274c2e13f218683c8.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160329/1ea942476fb348a55861cca26cc636b8.jpg

Also got the degree wheel out and set up the cam, this turned in to a shit show again, but finally got it to what I'm comfortable with.


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[Pookapotamus]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160330/c359e3ddd1ca478c100d88f4f38b4be7.jpg
So remember this pic from the last time I had mort apart?
Does anyone see my mistake? This would be the intake valve opening at .050" lift
Once you see it it's a huge slap in the face :(



http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160330/52bfc10f2eb6290c375c1e911e5227d3.jpg





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[4.3LXJ]

Looks like you are 180 off to me, but maybe I am not reading it right. Been a few years since I degreed a cam

[Pookapotamus]

Not quite Steve, it has to do with A & B.


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[4.3LXJ]

OK, I see you were 56 degrees off. Very retarded maybe?

[Pookapotamus]

Yes it's retarded but not that much, instead of setting it to before top dead centre, I set it to after, in the pic it is at 7 ATDC, I was going for 7 BTDC. SO I WAS 14 out.

The cam is now set at 13 deg BTDC, right where the cam card wants it, and all the other events are timed to the card as well.


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[4.3LXJ]

Nice to get that straightened out eh?

[Pookapotamus]

I hope so!


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[Pookapotamus]

Got some Colour on the pan today
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Then tore the head down
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Got everything clean
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Then cleaned and blasted the head
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Reassembled everything
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Torqued the head down, cleaned the valve cover up and got the block ready for cleaning and paint
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Once it's painted I can throw a set of temporary pushrods in it, flip it over and finish the lower brace then put it up right again, get some oil in it so I can roll it over and build new proper length pushrods.


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[abebehrmann]

Got some Colour on the pan today
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OOOOHHHH, Colour! Looks like Yellouw is your favourite colour....

[Pookapotamus]

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The 4.0L looks good in olive drab!


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[4.3LXJ]

Does this mean it is in stealth mode? :D

[bluedragon436]

Does this mean it is in stealth mode? :D

Only the engine, not all of Mort!!! LOL Hey feel free to come down here and build my spare 4.0 for me!!! I wish I already had the knowledge to tear down and build up an engine all by myself... I can manage the tear down portion.. not so much the rebuild!! LOL

[Pookapotamus]

Only the engine, not all of Mort!!! LOL Hey feel free to come down here and build my spare 4.0 for me!!! I wish I already had the knowledge to tear down and build up an engine all by myself... I can manage the tear down portion.. not so much the rebuild!! LOL



It's really not that hard, you could do it with s little help, you can always msg me if you have questions!


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There, no longer stealthy!

[XJ Wheeler]

Do you have any in an orange or perhaps a dark blue? :D

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[Pookapotamus]

Do you have any in an orange or perhaps a dark blue? :D

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Um... No

[bluedragon436]

It's really not that hard, you could do it with s little help, you can always msg me if you have questions!


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There, no longer stealthy!

Yeah, going to start looking for more parts for the spare engine build/rebuild... But got to take care of the regear and rebuild of the axles first, so that way I can hopefully make the best and extend the life of the current engine for a bit longer, to give me more time to plan build, gather parts, and get it torn down and rebuilt...

[Pookapotamus]

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Engine is almost ready to go back in, still have to make push rods, and swap the tranny, but now I can prime the oil pump and get pressure to measure the rods, have to build a jig to make them but that should be fairly easy.


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[4.3LXJ]

What I always do on a fresh engine is use the starter to turn over the engine with the spark plugs removed until it drains the battery. Oil pressure will be up full before that and should have all the lifters pumped up

[Pookapotamus]

I still have the dizzy out I can prime the pump and have oil pressure with a drill


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[4.3LXJ]

Make sure then you rotate the engine and prime every 90°

[Pookapotamus]

So Mort is fat! Weighing in at 5000lbs he is pretty heavy, in the near future I plan on redoing both bumpers in aluminum to shed some weight, I have been trying to think of other areas that I could shed some weight, then I thought of the extremely over built 1/4" skid plate in the Clayton kit, it weighs in at over 46lbs!
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This skid plate covers from mid tranny to past the transfer case, also holds dirt and does not allow drainage or air flow, and my muffler is right above it, never had any heat issues in that area, but cooler is better.
So I modelled it in 3D and got to work, came up with this:

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Dropped the weight to 30lbs, lots of drainage and air flow and won't drop the strength to much as there is square tube and crossmembers around the perimeter. Even considering going and getting 3/16" plate instead to drop another 7 1/2 lbs, but I'm thinking that would drop the strength too much. Or possibly 1/4" aluminum bringing the entire weight to 8lbs!

What do you guys think?


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[abebehrmann]

Sure seems like a whole lot of work for 16lbs of weight savings. I think if you're going to do it, you should go big and do the full 1/4'' aluminum for the 38lbs savings.

But then again, sometimes the fun of building things the way you want them is benefit enough and the real world benefits are just gravy.:cool:

[4.3LXJ]

I know what you mean Dana. I am afraid to weigh mine, even though I have been keeping the weight down

[Pookapotamus]

Sure seems like a whole lot of work for 16lbs of weight savings. I think if you're going to do it, you should go big and do the full 1/4'' aluminum for the 38lbs savings.



But then again, sometimes the fun of building things the way you want them is benefit enough and the real world benefits are just gravy.:cool:



I agree, I was hoping for a bigger weight reduction, aluminum might be the way to go.

[abebehrmann]

I agree, I was hoping for a bigger weight reduction, aluminum might be the way to go.

I can't remember, what kind of seats do you have? That might be an easy place to save a few lbs.

Maybe remove the carpet?

Crank windows?

[Pookapotamus]

Seats are stock 2 door, they are pretty light, but might be changed out later, I want to keep the carpet for noise and insulation, give up my power windows? Now you're just talking crazy!


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[4.3LXJ]

You can save some weight with aluminum. My front winch bumper only weighs about 65# including 3/8" skid plate. Rear winch bumper weighs about half that. Thinking of Al tube fenders and rocker skids too

[Pookapotamus]

My front is around 400#! Rear has to weigh in around 500#!

Boo!!!!


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[4.3LXJ]

Well, there is 800# to trim off

[XJ Wheeler]

Gotta agree with going aluminum. Really wish I had a welder that could do aluminum for that reason.

Sent via messenger pigeon. I talk, he types.

[Pookapotamus]

Gotta agree with going aluminum. Really wish I had a welder that could do aluminum for that reason.

Sent via messenger pigeon. I talk, he types.



I bought a spool gun works great!

[4.3LXJ]

I use my MIG. It will weld Al in all poslitions

[XJ Wheeler]

I gotta upgrade!

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[Pookapotamus]

Quickly modelled my old bumper, to get an idea of how much this really weighs, came in about 120#, but I am missing some steel in there so probably around 135#.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160416/ee53f30121ae96d7ce515404f372bcee.jpg

Just copying this to aluminum would drop the weight to about 45#!


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[Pookapotamus]

I could do an extremely light stubby version that is much stronger than its 130lbs counterpart!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160416/cc0ac38732c919a110d34648eb732e11.jpg

This replaces the front X-member, locates the winch between the rails and still clears the steering box, and weighs in at a whopping 12 lbs!!!!! Yes 12!!!!


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[Pookapotamus]

And possibly Mort's new front bumper!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160417/4969067fe049f41ebd3565042d938c12.jpg
Weighing in at 30 lbs!


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[4.3LXJ]

I like it. Every little bit helps in the weight loss

[Pookapotamus]

I have added a chamfer on the bottom, and a skid for the sway bar, not sure if I like the skid, all it does is protect the sway bat from impact, everything else is still protected, don't know if it is worth having it, what do you guys think?
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[Pookapotamus]

Also started stress testing, not very good with no welds!
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[4.3LXJ]

And to think I just started building mine out of an old vegetable conveyor :D

[Pookapotamus]

Going to redo the removable X-member for the tranny in aluminum too, should easily be able to hit my weight loss goal!


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[Carves]

Ideas are looking good Mr Pook .. :thumbsup:

Might not be relevant to your situation but ... The bash plate may help a little with airflow/radiator performance at roadspeeds.

[4.3LXJ]

Mort meets Jenny Craig :D

[Pookapotamus]

Got my Novak conversions, shifter cable today, wow is this thing beefy! Very VERY well made! Can't wait to get it installed!
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[4.3LXJ]

Looks just about like the low range cable on the Atlas :D

[Pookapotamus]

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[Pookapotamus]

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The rebuild on Mort's ax15 has started!


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[blazer2]

Looks like lot's of fun.

[4.3LXJ]

Been here done that Dana. Good luck. If you need a PDF for the assembly, I have it

[Pookapotamus]

That would be great Steve!


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[4.3LXJ]

You want me to send you the files? I confess I didn't pay attention to the reassembly procedure and ended up backtracking a couple of times

[Pookapotamus]

Thanks Steve! That will help tons!!!!


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[4.3LXJ]

Thought yo might like that

[Outlaw star]

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Having 4WD means getting stuck in more inaccessible places!
Now you can literally say Cluster (Adj, rhymes with truck). Just take your time and all will be fine. Good luck.

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[Outlaw star]

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[Pookapotamus]

Doesn't it look like fun lee?


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[4.3LXJ]

Lotsa parts Dana

[Outlaw star]

Doesn't it look like fun lee?


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Rebuilt a few AX-15's and AX-5's. Only part I ever hated was the sintered collar you have to press on and off the shaft. Its so soft it has a tendency to shatter. Just take your time and taking a few pictures for reference later always helps if it's your first time.

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[Pookapotamus]

Parts arrived yesterday!
So I finished wrapping the header
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And unwrapped the new rockers!
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[4.3LXJ]

Very fancy :D

[blazer2]

Them be nice

[Pookapotamus]

Them be nice



Can't wait to hear how they sound, and see how the stroker runs with them!

[blazer2]

What gains are you getting out of the stroker?
Or what do you thank you will be getting?
I bet mort will have a nice sound when it's all done.

[blazer2]

And who mixed your paint? Or did you mix it?
I have had great luck with NAPA. But I am always
Looking for other mixers. I have alot of stuff to paint
Once a year.

[Pookapotamus]

What gains are you getting out of the stroker?
Or what do you thank you will be getting?
I bet mort will have a nice sound when it's all done.



No idea what gains, but considering mort weighs 5000lbs and he can get up and pass I'm happy and think it's well worth it, will have to wait and see what he is like with this new set of mods, as for sound that will be changing too, will be revamping the exhaust soon and going to dual outlet.