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4.3LXJ
08-02-2011, 09:18 PM
I have had good fans on my XJ, but in the coming weeks I am looking at the possibility of going up a 40 mile long hill and climbing 6,000 feet and flat towing a vehicle in the process with the wife with me which means the air needs to be on too. I have a good aluminum radiator but wanted to upgrade the fan so I could get more air through the radiator. I have drug this Ford Taurus fan around with me for about 7 years now and decided it was time to use it. It makes a good upgrade over the stock fan and is capable on the high speed of moving 4800 cfm if it has a good shroud. So here is how to make the shroud to fit in the space where the belt driven fan is.

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The first thing to note is that the XJ 4.0L radiator is only 11" tall and the Taurus fan is 16" in diameter. If you bolt up the fan directly to the radiator it will not pull 4800 cfm, but more like 3800 cfm. If you are a whiz with geometry you can figure it out for yourselves. So you can have some of it above the radiator or below. In my situation, I only had about 2" to play with above so I chose to put the extra 5" of fan below. This is the shape I chose to use, although you could use a more square shape if you desired. I started with a flat piece of aluminum. I have the advantage of having a shear and brake in the shop, but I have made two other shrouds with angle aluminum pop riveted. Besides, I can't bend a 19" piece of hardened aluminum in my brake. So I used some 20 gauge galvanized steel, same stuff duct work is made out of and spaced the fan out a little farther than you will be able to with a 4.0L engine.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/2011-07-03_18-44-42_763.jpg You can see if yo look closely I pop riveted it all together, which is not hard to do if you are using sheet metal or angle aluminum. The idea is to space the fan a little back behind the radiator and duct the air so it has to go through all the fan. Here is the final shape.

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Next it was time to cut out the space for the fan blade. I don't have a compass that I can draw a 16" circle with, so I made one with a scrap piece of aluminum, a drill screw and a sharpie marker.

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I used a saber saw with a metal blade in it to cut on the line, but I needed a hole to start with. A step drill makes a nice large hole quickly.

Here is the finished ducting on the shroud.

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Notice there is quite a bit of fan on the outside edge that would not be used without the shroud. This is the most efficient area of the fan.

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Next you have to get creative according to what you have to work with. I chose to use aluminum tubing and bend it with spring benders, the type plumbers use to bend copper tubing. However I have also used angle aluminum spaced out from the shroud in other projects. I then made a mounting plate to mount the motor to and welded the bent tubing to the motor plate and shroud. What you cannot see is some rubber grommets under the plate to help keep the motor quiet. Here is the finished shroud.

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Notice in the photo there is a small sheet metal hook to go on to the stock radiator shroud mount. The other side rests on the frame rail where the notch is.

Here it is mounted in the XJ

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Next, you have to wire it up. I like things to operate like OEM things, and since my wife needs to be able to drive this it has to be a no brainer. So here is my wiring diagram for it.

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Now a few words of explanation here on this diagram. First I have functional AC. So it has to work both fans when it is on. Second, the fan needs to work on low speed during normal operation and high speed with AC or when the engine is working hard for extra cooling. The other thing is that both of my fans can pull 50 amps on start up, so heavy duty 12 gage wiring and 60 amp breakers were used for both. Also, don't try to use light wiring plugs on the breakers. Get 50 amp relays and plugs that attach that are rated for that much or you will start frying wiring and it will quit on you. I have already found out the hard way with my other fan set up. So don't skimp on this part of it. My primary sensor for the Taurus fan is a Gm sensor that goes on at 200° and off at 190°. It is located in the intake manifold next to the thermostat housing which holds a 190° tstat for right now. It operates by grounding the coil on the relay. This relay powers the next relay, which if not switched on will default to the slow speed on the Taurus fan. If however the coolant going into the engine is above 185°, the middle relay will switch to the higher speed and turn on the aux fan. Between the two they will pull an amazing 7000 CFM, which Griffin Radiator assures me will handle 600 hp on the engine. If the AC compressor comes on, the wire attached to that will kick both fans on even if the engine is cold and provide enough air going through the condenser coil at idle to give the same cooling as cruising the highway thereby giving you the coldest air possible at idle in traffic or wheeling.

saar
08-06-2011, 02:08 AM
Nice work!
Thank you for the post and the photos.

modestmar00xj
08-07-2011, 11:43 PM
That's pretty cool. How effective is the Ford fan. Do you see a big difference?

4.3LXJ
08-07-2011, 11:45 PM
That's pretty cool. How effective is the Ford fan. Do you see a big difference?

I'll have to let lyou know on that one. I pulled the radiator out and shipped it to Griffin to fix a leak. But I expect a sizable difference. It has twice the capacity of the fan it is replacing.

Joliet Johnny
08-10-2011, 07:59 AM
Very nice. My friend is parting out his Taurus and said I could have his fan. Im 99% sure you can find 50amp relays in some Toyotas.

4.3LXJ
08-10-2011, 08:49 AM
Very nice. My friend is parting out his Taurus and said I could have his fan. Im 99% sure you can find 50amp relays in some Toyotas.

50 Amp relays are easy to find. It is the 50 Amp plugs for them that are tough. I have to get those at an Auto Electric shop.

Joliet Johnny
08-10-2011, 09:52 PM
well with all the accessories we like to add what about adding a 3rd fuse box?

4.3LXJ
08-10-2011, 10:12 PM
well with all the accessories we like to add what about adding a 3rd fuse box?

I prefer circuit breakers and relays. The circuit breakers reset themselves. I can just put them on a rack and use as many as I want. Here is one I used in place of fusible links off the starter relay. I shortened the wires and moved it to the back of the alternator.

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Skipper51
08-11-2011, 10:03 AM
Nice upgrade and write up. Defiantly in my plans. Is your hood vented?

4.3LXJ
08-11-2011, 10:12 AM
Yes

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jeepxj95
08-21-2011, 01:06 AM
update???? hows it working

4.3LXJ
08-21-2011, 09:06 AM
My radiator is supposed to be back Wednesday. Then we are leaving Thursday for four days of wheeling. Nothing like giving it the acid test. Griffin is taking its time in repairing it.

jeepxj95
08-21-2011, 11:39 PM
let us know when u get back from ur trip plz

4.3LXJ
08-22-2011, 12:17 AM
You can count on it

4.3LXJ
08-29-2011, 12:12 PM
A couple of forum users wanted to know how the new taurus fan works. All I can say is very well, except for a minor glitch. I just need to space the fan a little farther forward. When the Jeep gets twisted up, the sub frame flexes and deforms the fan housing a little and it scrapes. No biggie. After we got our stock two row brass radiator cleaned out so it would actually cool, we ran it hard all weekend, floorboarded over Donnor pass at over 7,000 feet, up long steep grades in low range off road to 8,000 feet and in the valley at 70mph in triple digit temps. We also have one of the Derale fans on the other side too for a total of 7,000 CFM. Proving it can be done in a stock radiator if you move enough air through it.

This is a lifted rig, with 8" of lift also.

jeepxj95
08-30-2011, 12:14 AM
good to here. did u have the ac on also?

4.3LXJ
08-30-2011, 12:27 AM
good to here. did u have the ac on also?

No, I didn't have time to charge it up. I will put it back together this week along with the Griffin after I repair it. It showed up while we were wheelin.

jeepxj95
08-30-2011, 12:45 AM
oh. just read ur trip. nice and what were ur temps after u got ur rad repaird?

4.3LXJ
08-30-2011, 01:30 AM
oh. just read ur trip. nice and what were ur temps after u got ur rad repaird?

195° But I have a Chevy engine. That is where they are supposed to run.

jeepxj95
08-30-2011, 07:52 PM
thats good to hear