LizardRunner
05-26-2011, 04:31 PM
Under the tornadoes thread some of us got to discussing through posts about this chaning time and the oddities we are seeing around the globe and some was mentioned about specific items such as Global Warming. So, I thought I would start this thread just for that sort of discussion rather than continue to hijack the tornadoes thread any longer.
Things I would like to say about this changing time:
1. Global Warming is occuring, I do not hold water to the concept that humans caused it. It is my observation that the current global warming would have happened with or without the presence of human beings. That it is happening, no one should be able to deny, the polar ice caps are melting, the permafrost is the tell tale as well as shrinking ice masses like glaicers. You can't deny facts of measuring and seeing it happen.
2. No one can deny that the human being, since the first "civilizations" has had a habit of creating masses of waste and having a distinct lack of care about how to dispose of said waste, all Cultures have shown they have this problem. It is also easy to observe that the human creature has created great misery to earth mother and the other creatures with which we share this planet. In fact we have made parts of earth mother become in dire straits, struggling for survival. Can anyone blame her for shaking to throw off the blight upon her? There have been other earth shakes (not to be confused with earth quakes) one was the end of the dinosaurs. My people say that the earth shakes when earth mother tries to clense herself, caused by the people not listening to her.
3. Many "scientist and other Learned people" keep pointing to the Mayan calender and then say that the world will end in december 2012, with out really understanding the culture. This is not what the calender shows and is a false hood of deception panic. Many "Native" cultures have prophecies about this time and it is refered to as the chaning time. In the Mayan culture it would have been the completion of the great circle, a changing time that went back to 1, where their calander started in the first place. Remember, they did not have the concept of the number six, this is important to remember when talking about the ancients and particularly the Mayans. The mayan culture still exist through the shamans and they tell of the earth passing through the great void, then after 60 days the earth will come out the other side, the question for these shamans is which sun we will see at that time. The calender stops at 2012 because that is the end of their concept of the cycle of ages and it restarts at 1 from that date. The chinese mention this as the time of the dragon swallowing its self only to come again, this is also where the concept of the phoenix bird comes from, dies in fire and is reborn from its own ashes is a metaphor for the rebirth as a result of going through the changing time.
3. It is written; Until all the Colors of Man can see that they are One People, strife will remain upon the world and mankind can perish. It is also written that the white man will cause great pain upon all others until they can sit in council with the red man, the black man, the yellow man as equals the green earth is in peril. It is also written that all the colors of man must learn to live as one tribe in order to survive. It is also written that each color of man will make war upon the other colors until that time when they all sit and smoke the pipe and listen to each other at the council fire. These are parts of My peoples prophecy that pertain to all who are of man.
If you think about these parts of the prophecy, they are true and have been shown to be true through out history. Except that last part about sitting at the council fire and smoking the pipe and listening to each other as equals. that has yet to happen.
Now I pass the talking stick and will listen well to your words for they hold weight and should be thought about with an open heart.
Things I would like to say about this changing time:
1. Global Warming is occuring, I do not hold water to the concept that humans caused it. It is my observation that the current global warming would have happened with or without the presence of human beings. That it is happening, no one should be able to deny, the polar ice caps are melting, the permafrost is the tell tale as well as shrinking ice masses like glaicers. You can't deny facts of measuring and seeing it happen.
2. No one can deny that the human being, since the first "civilizations" has had a habit of creating masses of waste and having a distinct lack of care about how to dispose of said waste, all Cultures have shown they have this problem. It is also easy to observe that the human creature has created great misery to earth mother and the other creatures with which we share this planet. In fact we have made parts of earth mother become in dire straits, struggling for survival. Can anyone blame her for shaking to throw off the blight upon her? There have been other earth shakes (not to be confused with earth quakes) one was the end of the dinosaurs. My people say that the earth shakes when earth mother tries to clense herself, caused by the people not listening to her.
3. Many "scientist and other Learned people" keep pointing to the Mayan calender and then say that the world will end in december 2012, with out really understanding the culture. This is not what the calender shows and is a false hood of deception panic. Many "Native" cultures have prophecies about this time and it is refered to as the chaning time. In the Mayan culture it would have been the completion of the great circle, a changing time that went back to 1, where their calander started in the first place. Remember, they did not have the concept of the number six, this is important to remember when talking about the ancients and particularly the Mayans. The mayan culture still exist through the shamans and they tell of the earth passing through the great void, then after 60 days the earth will come out the other side, the question for these shamans is which sun we will see at that time. The calender stops at 2012 because that is the end of their concept of the cycle of ages and it restarts at 1 from that date. The chinese mention this as the time of the dragon swallowing its self only to come again, this is also where the concept of the phoenix bird comes from, dies in fire and is reborn from its own ashes is a metaphor for the rebirth as a result of going through the changing time.
3. It is written; Until all the Colors of Man can see that they are One People, strife will remain upon the world and mankind can perish. It is also written that the white man will cause great pain upon all others until they can sit in council with the red man, the black man, the yellow man as equals the green earth is in peril. It is also written that all the colors of man must learn to live as one tribe in order to survive. It is also written that each color of man will make war upon the other colors until that time when they all sit and smoke the pipe and listen to each other at the council fire. These are parts of My peoples prophecy that pertain to all who are of man.
If you think about these parts of the prophecy, they are true and have been shown to be true through out history. Except that last part about sitting at the council fire and smoking the pipe and listening to each other as equals. that has yet to happen.
Now I pass the talking stick and will listen well to your words for they hold weight and should be thought about with an open heart.