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4.3LXJ
05-15-2011, 01:22 PM
Driveline pinion angles come up often and I get tired of going through the same thing repeatedly, so I thought a post was in order so we would all have access to this information. It is also easier for me to just give a link to our own website. So here it is.

It is not all that hard. You just need to do what professionals do. I have done this many times. First, you need to purchase an angle finder, or if you have an Android, download an angle finder app. The angle finders are cheap and look like this:

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/IMG_0941.jpg

The pic above shows you how to measure off the pinion. Then place the angle finder on the the fill plug or any other vertical machined surface on your transfer case and measure that. Next, what you do depends on whether or not you have a SYE or standard set up.

If you have a standard setup with a stock tcase, your driveline geometry needs to like like this:

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/2joint_angle.gif

If this is the case, you will subtract one value from the other and that is the number of degrees you need to change the pinion. It needs to match as close as possible the angle on the tcase. This can be done with shims, or if you have not welded your spring purchases you can rotate the axel housing till you get the right angle and then tack weld them in place.

If you have an SYE (slip yoke eliminator) and a double cardan U joint on the tcase end of the driveline, then the geometry you need is this:

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/cv_angle.gif

To get this, loosen the ubolts and place a jack under the pinion and raise the pinion until the driveline angle is the same as the pinion angle, or an easy way to put it is just raise it until the pinion U joint has no angle to it. It needs to look like this.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/IMG_0295.jpg

Measure the new pinion angle and then subtract the first value from the second and then that is the amount of shim you need, or if you have not welded the spring pads then tack weld them in that position.

As long as you have not exceeded the angle the U joints will accommodate without the yokes hitting, you will have vibration free driving.

Now with the popularity of smart phones, you can get a free app to enable you to use them for an angle finder also.

4x4Dalton
05-15-2011, 05:15 PM
Great info man. Thanks alot!!

saar
05-22-2011, 01:35 AM
Thank you maybe now I'll find some time to reduce my drive line vibration.
Saar

bayhunter
06-21-2011, 01:12 PM
THANKS for the link that explains it simply!!!!!!!

Mudderoy
10-22-2011, 10:29 PM
Driveline pinion angles come up often and I get tired of going through the same thing repeatedly, so I thought a post was in order so we would all have access to this information. It is also easier for me to just give a link to our own website. So here it is.

It is not all that hard. You just need to do what professionals do. I have done this many times. First, you need to purchase an angle finder, or if you have an Android, download an angle finder app. The angle finders are cheap and look like this:

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/IMG_0941.jpg

The pic above shows you how to measure off the pinion. Then place the angle finder on the the fill plug or any other vertical machined surface on your transfer case and measure that. Next, what you do depends on whether or not you have a SYE or standard set up.

If you have a standard setup with a stock tcase, your driveline geometry needs to like like this:

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/2joint_angle.gif

If this is the case, you will subtract one value from the other and that is the number of degrees you need to change the pinion. It needs to match as close as possible the angle on the tcase. This can be done with shims, or if you have not welded your spring purchases you can rotate the axel housing till you get the right angle and then tack weld them in place.

If you have an SYE (slip yoke eliminator) and a double cardan U joint on the tcase end of the driveline, then the geometry you need is this:

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/cv_angle.gif

To get this, loosen the ubolts and place a jack under the pinion and raise the pinion until the driveline angle is the same as the pinion angle, or an easy way to put it is just raise it until the pinion U joint has no angle to it. It needs to look like this.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/IMG_0295.jpg

Measure the new pinion angle and then subtract the first value from the second and then that is the amount of shim you need, or if you have not welded the spring pads then tack weld them in that position.

As long as you have not exceeded the angle the U joints will accommodate without the yokes hitting, you will have vibration free driving.

Exceeded WHAT angle?

4.3LXJ
10-23-2011, 09:59 AM
Exceeded WHAT angle?

The ujoint yokes have an angle at which they will hit each other. The angle for a single joint is about 20°. The angle for a CV is right around 43°, which is quit a bit. It should never be a problem on an XJ. But on a YJ, or TJ you can get there on tall lifts due to the short length of the rear drive shaft.

willtodo
06-07-2012, 05:31 PM
I have slip yoke elimiator,,runnin the double ujoint set up,,pinion angle is 11deg,,,,,drive shaft angle is 19,,,,,if i subtract i get 8,,,,so do i need an 8degree shim,,im trying to avoid loosining the rear diff

4.3LXJ
06-07-2012, 05:36 PM
You probably really need a 6°. With that much change, you will reduce the angle of the drive line too as you do. But if I was doing it, an easy way to get right into the ball park is to loosen the U bolts up and put a bottle jack under the pinion and raise it until the drive shaft looks like it has a straight shot into the diff. 6° is what I ended up with.

Jeepster19
10-23-2012, 09:51 PM
You probably really need a 6°. With that much change, you will reduce the angle of the drive line too as you do. But if I was doing it, an easy way to get right into the ball park is to loosen the U bolts up and put a bottle jack under the pinion and raise it until the drive shaft looks like it has a straight shot into the diff. 6° is what I ended up with.
Thanks for the info.Going to ck mine this weekend.:D

radio_flyer_xj
05-17-2015, 10:01 PM
I couldn't of said it better myself!