New Winch Bumper

[Mudderoy]

:notworthy:

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper2.gif
Picture courtesy of detoursusa.com (http://www.detourusa.com)

[Mudderoy]

Here is the basic design that I submitted to detoursusa.

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper_drawings.jpg

Here is the "should fit like this" picture I submitted to detoursusa.

http://muckleroy.com/images/Jeep_Front_Bumper_2b_s1.jpg

[Mudderoy]

Today's picture update...

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[Mudderoy]

And more...

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http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper9.gif

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper10.gif

[Mudderoy]

And some new images that came in tonight...

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper12.gif

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper13.gif

[Mudderoy]

It's been a slow week for my bumper construction.

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper14.jpg

But it is moving forward...

[Mudderoy]

Many many thanks to Detours (http://www.detoursusa.com) for taking the extra time to take all these pictures, transfer them to the computer, then e-mail them out. Truly above and beyond!!!

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper15.jpg
Recovery points if you don't love them you will.
The top of the bumper hasn't been notched yet.

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper16.jpg
All the BIG bumper's "D" shackles are big. ;)

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper17.jpg
This is an image prior to the bottom plates being added.

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper18.jpg
The other end of the recovery point.

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper19.jpg
Ok plates all in. Top is notched. This thing is getting close.

You think this is a lot of pictures, wait until I get the bumper, paint it and install it on my Jeep! :lolsign:

[DETOURS]

Tastes like chicken!

[Mudderoy]

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[Melissa]

I can't wait to see the end result!!!

[BlueXJ]

Looks very sturdy. What have you picked out for a winch?

[DETOURS]

I read somewhere he's planning the Superwinch EPi 9000, being a previous owner of one, I can tell ya they're a nice unit.

[Mudderoy]

Yep yep, Superwinch EP i 9.0 Winch.

http://superwinch.com/UserFiles/Image/epi9LG.jpg

http://superwinch.com/EPi9_9_000_lbs.html

I was looking at various brands, not knowing ANYTHING about winches. Mark at Detours recommend the Superwinch, so I read a few things about them and decided that was the way I was going to go. The bumper is actually built for this winch and model. Others may fit, but Mark asked which winch I was going to use prior to building the bumper.

[BlueXJ]

Yeah I liked the design but went with MileMarker as they had a bigger winch for a cheaper price and I think a bigger winch may be needed in the gumbo mud I have experienced.

[Mudderoy]

Yeah I liked the design but went with MileMarker as they had a bigger winch for a cheaper price and I think a bigger winch may be needed in the gumbo mud I have experienced.

Isn't milemarker very good just slower than Warn and Superwinch?

[BlueXJ]

Isn't milemarker very good just slower than Warn and Superwinch?


Yeah it is slower but the reason I bought it is that it doesn't overheat. My buddies with Warns down here have very fast winches but they have to stop on heavy or extended winching because you could fry eggs on theirs and mine is barely warm.
I have no first hand experience with Smittybuilts or Superwinches winches. Sry!!

[DETOURS]

EEEEEK!!
Smittybuilt should'nt be in the same sentence as Super_______, while I've heard decent things about the Smitty.....it is a 'direct from China' import with just whats now a 'brandname' of Smittybuilt on it......;)

[BlueXJ]

So Spsanky which winch is your choice and why?

[DETOURS]

I've owned a Warn 8274 & 3 various Supewinches, my current winch is
an EPi-9000, very happy with it.

Warn and Superwinch are some of the best, although you're paying an additional percentage for
the Warn name. I consider a winch a tool, you should attempt to buy the best tools you can
afford, it cuts down on the busted knuckles...

[xjjeepthing]

Dam nice Bumper Mud, Detours nice job

[Mudderoy]

Thanks. I'm about to have an out of body experience if I don't get it soon.

:lmao:

[firehawk]

I think your going to need some time "to yourself" when you get the bumper!:lolsign:

[Mudderoy]

I am just having so much fun with this 4x4. I just loved my truck when I had it years ago, but I never did so much to a vehicle as I have done to this one.

I get to "play" with it almost everyday, and with the Internet I have the ability to learn so much more than I would have otherwise.

It is great fun interacting with people that enjoy the XJs as well. I see XJs around the Houston area, but I never see a lifted one.

So yes alone time with the XJ is very much a good thing.

[TeXJ]

there's quite a few lifted XJ's around here.

[Mudderoy]

I heard four rumors today related to my bumper.

1. The center hoop is on
2. Someone saw the bumper in the Detours shop (without the hoop) and thought that the bumper was shipped to Detours to have the hoop installed. :smiley-laughing021:
3. I should have a new picture of the bumper today.
4. Everything should be completed this week and the bumper shipped next.

xjtalk

[Mudderoy]

Twist on a old movie reference.

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper28.jpg

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper29.jpg

http://muckleroy.com/images/bumper30.jpg
Pictures courtesy of Detours
A valued xjtalk vendor.

[xjjeepthing]

I like it. mark does nice work

[Melissa]

That's looking really good, are you drooling yet?

[DETOURS]

Need to get that puppy buttoned up!! :smiley-scared002:

[Mudderoy]

I like it. mark does nice work
Yes and it irritates him when people are surprised. :smiley-laughing021:


That's looking really good, are you drooling yet?
I can feel the bodily fluids pooling. :eek:

[Mudderoy]

I think you guys will find this funny.

http://muckleroy.com/images/wheresmybumper.jpg

Yeah it says two weeks overdue, but I was counting 25 days (estimated time to build the bumper) including Saturdays and Sundays.

No I wasn't thinking that DETOURS (Mark) might want a day, or two, off. :rotfl2:

We're actually right on time with the estimate.

[DETOURS]

I dont think its funny............maybe I'll cut it up and start over....:rotfl2:

(only cuzz it's on time.....:popcorn:)

[Mudderoy]

Don't threaten my baby. Hell, I guess it's more your baby than mine. Like most guys I just started the process. :rotfl2:

[_StationWagon_]

That's looking really good, are you drooling yet?
ummm ... haven't you been paying attention? He's been drooling for weeks!

[Melissa]

ummm ... haven't you been paying attention? He's been drooling for weeks!

I know he has been drooling, I guess since it is getting close to finishing, I was wondering if he was all out slobering, chomping at the bit, jumping up and down in anticipation :D

[DETOURS]

Ehhh, it's pretty close to 'on time'........We've had mad ammounts of orders recently that have to be done in a decent time frames.....

I'd suggest drinking more water, it's supposed to rain for the next 5-6 days and I cant sand~blast in the rain..........:smiley-scared002:

Not until the addition is put on the building that is.......

[Mudderoy]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think your business is a good sign for our economy. I wouldn't mind my bumper having 100% of your attention, but I personally think that you being busy will have a direct correlation to me continuing to work and buy more Jeep stuff.

I just figured everyone would get a good laugh from yet another customer with unreasonable expectations. When you said 25 days I immediately thought 25 consecutive days and put it on my calendar.

[DETOURS]

Meh......just bustin on my end, we've lost a few hours of fab time due to our phone conversations........:smiley-laughing021:

[DETOURS]

You've got mail....:boohoo:

[Mudderoy]

As spanky said I got the e-mail... :smiley-scared002:

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All I can say is WOW! Here is the drawing I sent Spanky, lol spanky.
http://xjtalk.com/images/special/Jeep_Front_Bumper_2b_s1.jpg

Mark; Do you think I have enough room on the side hoops for lights? It looks pretty close. Looks like the light tabs may have to be pretty close to where the side tubes meet the center hoop? Which is fine with me, if you think it makes sense. :thumbsup: BTW, I can see that the tube size you used for the bumper actually "fits" the bump better than my drawing. Those tubes were too small.

[Melissa]

That is looking really nice, I can't wait to see it installed on your xj.

[xjjeepthing]

We're not worthy :notworthy:

[firehawk]

VERY nice!!!:thumbsup: It looks to be primed and ready to go. When are you supposed to get it? Looking forward to seeing it mounted up.

Now all it needs is a winch sitting on it.:thumbsup:

[Mudderoy]

Last I heard Mark is still shooting for shipping next week. He still has some bracing to do inside. I think the ends on the left and right side still need finishing, but it is very very close.

[Mudderoy]

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/my_bumper_final.jpg

[Melissa]

WOW, that is going to look GOOOOD

[xjjeepthing]

Very nice :thumbsup:

[DETOURS]

Yes, still some odds & ends to button up, I need to do the tabs yet for the lights, and Tony...I think they'll be fine as far as fit goes.

It's been a strange week, temps in the mid 40's most of the days, humidity at 90-100 percent, lots of rain/showers......it all means that our primers have'nt been curing effectively, this slows down packaging and shipping, which in return causes frustration. Why am I mentioning this? It's crazy to think things like temp & humidity can totally bottle kneck production and projected time frames, but it does.

Still looking to ship late this week if at all possible. :popcorn:

[Mudderoy]

Good news on the lights. It looked like it was close from the picture. That center hoop is so wide I think I can get 3 lights on there! I'm going to hate hanging a license plate on the front of my work of art.

Well I guess you have a least a couple of years to figure out the weather patterns at your new place. I wonder if one of those big a$$ed shop heaters would get rid of the moisture.

[DETOURS]

Honestly, it would require a seperate building or section of building to create a true climate controlled area......unless you own the electric or fuel company, very few welding/fabrication shops (at the level Im at or most others as well..) are climate controlled. I'd need an addition dedicated to final clean-up/spray & cure......($$$$$$)

[Mudderoy]

You know bumpers are such manly things. When the guy delivered the rear bumper, I thought he was going to hang around and help me install it. lol

If you use the same shipper chances are good the same guy will deliver this one. More questions, more compliments. :thumbsup:

I was thinking. With the way this bumper is designed, do you think I will be able to jack up the Jeep with a high lift jack?

I guess I can always find a good sized limb on a tree and winch it up. :rotfl2:

[DETOURS]

Yes....:popcorn:

[Mudderoy]

Ehhh, it's pretty close to 'on time'........We've had mad ammounts of orders recently that have to be done in a decent time frames.....

I'd suggest drinking more water, it's supposed to rain for the next 5-6 days and I cant sand~blast in the rain..........:smiley-scared002:

Not until the addition is put on the building that is.......

Ok another dumb question. What does sandblasting do? Just make it all smooth like sanding a project in wood shop?

[firehawk]

Sandblasting is blowing sand or some other media/abrasive out of a nozzle using high air pressure. It will strip anything off, INCLUDING SKIN, leaving a sort of matte finish on metal. Depending on what you use to blast with, sand, glass beads, even dry ice, will determine how smooth of a finish you end up with.

[OMOC]

:love0055:so did you get that monster mounted yet? i must say that bumper is nice it just needs a sticker "smile as you go under":driving:

[Mudderoy]

I haven't received it yet. They are hoping to ship it late this week. Seems the rainy weather is causing lots of problems there in KY.

[muddeprived]

Ok another dumb question. What does sandblasting do? Just make it all smooth like sanding a project in wood shop?

Before sandblasting:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/hitch/PIC-0119.jpg


After sandblasting (top piece)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/hitch/PIC-0142.jpg

Sandblasting to us salt-region jeepers is like chocolate to ladies during that time of the month. It's just AWESOME.

[Mudderoy]

Hey thanks for the pictures. It makes sense to me on rusty metal, I just didn't know it would be done to new metal. I guess it is just one of the those fininishing touches that make the product right.

[Mudderoy]

Well it looks like Amazon has the best price for the Superwinch EPi9.0...

$575.60 with free shipping.

I guess if I wanted to secure my new winch I could put a spot weld on one or more of the nuts?

Is there any reason to put a cover on a winch?

[firehawk]

Well it looks like Amazon has the best price for the Superwinch EPi9.0...

$575.60 with free shipping.

I guess if I wanted to secure my new winch I could put a spot weld on one or more of the nuts?

Is there any reason to put a cover on a winch?

:rotfl2:If you can put a spot weld one one or more of your nuts, YOU are one tough ombre!:rotfl2:

I'm no winch expert but mine mounted with 4 square nuts that fit in a slot of sorts in the winch frame. It bolted up from the bottom. I guess I kinda assumed all winches mounted the same.

[DETOURS]

They pretty much do mount the same. (not so for the Warn 8274)

Tack a single bolt from the underside to the bumper, done as far
as security goes.

Thats a good price, bring it to 4WD.com 's attention, they may
match it and you'll have better warranty protection over amazon.
(only cuzz they're in the business, and I doubt you'll need the warranty)

Covers will promote longevity, no matter what brand. :thumbsup:

[afbond03]

Mmmmmm so beeffffy.

[Mudderoy]

Latest bumper update...

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper35.jpg

MISSING!!!
:eek: :smiley-scared002: :yack: :pee: shit :hitsfan:

[DETOURS]

I missed looking at 'mud-flap-girl'..........:rolleyes:

[Mudderoy]

First thing I noticed!

You know you HAD to much spare time on your hands at one point.

[DETOURS]

Nahhhh.....the FULL SIZE CREW love them in their light assemblies I sell.

Thought about paint yet??

[Mudderoy]

I was going to put some gloss black on it but after seeing some XJ pictures the other day I decided I AM GOING TO HAVE IT PAINTED FACTORY RED.
Along with the bushwackers, sliders, and diamond plate that will go on the side rockers below the door trim.
Oh and the induction cowl hood I'm going to get. Money Money Money.

I may leave the back bumper black.

Anyway I'm going to paint it flat black "rattle can" like I did the rear bumper. I figure that will be easier to paint primer and "poppy" red on later.

[Mudderoy]

Bumper Found!!!

Pictures courtesy of detoursusa.com (http://detoursusa.com)
http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper36.jpg

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper37.jpg

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper38.jpg
Look at how straight those lines are.

ARB bullbar Bumper can kiss my a$$!!! :smiley-finger007: :spank:

Mark; Don't forget. NO to packing up a CAT and YES to giving me a DETOURS sticker, like the one you had on this bumper, but white. If you don't have white that orange red one is ok. I just think the white will show up better.

[Melissa]

I don't know if someone already asked or if you mentioned it but, how much weight is your bumper going to add to the front of Big Red ( Does your jeep have a name? )

[Mudderoy]

I don't know if someone already asked or if you mentioned it but, how much weight is your bumper going to add to the front of Big Red ( Does your jeep have a name? )

I asked Mark a few minutes ago in an e-mail, but I don't expect a reply until tomorrow. I told him to be careful when he took it off the jig. I didn't want anything happening to him until the bumper was completed and shipped. :rotfl2:

Naw no name. It's just a machine that I bought and have been customizing. If I thought of a name it would be something naughty, and that wouldn't be good for anyone. ;)

[BlueXJ]

There is a thread on CT or CF about Jeep names and I think that most people have some kinda name for their XJ. Maybe you should start thinking of one that can be said in polite company.

[Mudderoy]

I don't know if someone already asked or if you mentioned it but, how much weight is your bumper going to add to the front of Big Red ( Does your jeep have a name? )

Mark says... I think we're right around 68-73lbs......not positive yet.

If this figure holds, winch and bumper will add about 150 lbs to the nose. I'll be removing the front factory skid and factory bumper, so maybe 30 lbs, with a delta of 120 lbs.

[Melissa]

That's not much, It looks heavier than that
I can't wait to see the end result.

[DETOURS]

Mudd....that factory skids 'gotta' go, save the front bolts which connect it to the front crossmember, the bumper will tie into this area as discussed.

Personally......I'd consider Plasticoat bedliner spray, it's been re-formulated and is really a nice product in 'rattle can form'.......very black, nice fine texture, and a nice rubbery feel to the cured surface.

Pick up a can and atleast check it out. (NAPA/Walmart/AutoZone- $7.95)

If you later have it painted red, consider who's ever going to paint it will most likely want to start with a freshly sandblasted surface.

[Mudderoy]

Mudd....that factory skids 'gotta' go, save the front bolts which connect it to the front crossmember, the bumper will tie into this area as discussed.

Personally......I'd consider Plasticoat bedliner spray, it's been re-formulated and is really a nice product in 'rattle can form'.......very black, nice fine texture, and a nice rubbery feel to the cured surface.

Pick up a can and atleast check it out. (NAPA/Walmart/AutoZone- $7.95)

If you later have it painted red, consider who's ever going to paint it will most likely want to start with a freshly sandblasted surface.

Oh it's going, if for no other reason the 20 pounds you told me about.

I'll have a look at the paint, thanks.

[kryptonitexj]

Mudderoy, If you want to paint it your self you should try www.paintscratch.com. You can order your specific Red for your year. It runs about 25 bucks a can. This is what I did, cost was about $80. Two cans of silver and one can of clear coat and a few hours to dry. Its just an option. Pm me for more details.

[Mudderoy]

Mudderoy, If you want to paint it your self you should try www.paintscratch.com. You can order your specific Red for your year. It runs about 25 bucks a can. This is what I did, cost was about $80. Two cans of silver and one can of clear coat and a few hours to dry. Its just an option. Pm me for more details.

Yeah I'd love to be able to paint it myself. I'd paint the parts as I got them. You may have seen my post on my accident a fews years ago. I had to have the rear driver's quarter panel re-skinned, and painted. The guy that did it told me that red is very difficult to match.

He did a very good job matching the paint, so naturally I wanted him to paint the parts. We agreed that it would be too time consuming having him paint the parts as I got them so he suggested that I get everything then come see him.

[DETOURS]

2 cents.....while I like the red Jeep, if it was mine I'd do black to offset the red body.........sometimes mono-coloring just dosent offset the vehical......remember the 80's when the Euro trend started.........:thumbdown:

[_StationWagon_]

Huh, Spanky? How much more black does he need than 4 tires and those huge black flares?

I kept red on mine everywhere Chrysler originally had it (Limited).
Then I added a dog for contrast :p .

http://usera.ImageCave.com/cherokeegrrl/Just_My_XJ/beauty.jpg.jpg

[Mudderoy]

Huh, Spanky? How much more black does he need than 4 tires and those huge black flares?

I kept red on mine everywhere Chrysler originally had it (Limited).
Then I added a dog for contrast :p .

http://usera.ImageCave.com/cherokeegrrl/Just_My_XJ/beauty.jpg.jpg

Park, parking break and wheel chocks? That's like two belts and a pair of suspenders!

[DETOURS]

Dont get me wrong.....mines all BLACK....;)

I'm just suggesting.........:headbag:

[_StationWagon_]

Park, parking break and wheel chocks? That's like two belts and a pair of suspenders!
duh ... I had had the rear up on the jack minutes before & just finished doing something or other under the XJ. Couldn't wait to snap the pic because he doesn't often sit still and behave like that ... the dog, not the XJ :p.

[DETOURS]

Makes sense to me.

[xjjeepthing]

I think Black bumpers and Black Whackers will look hot

[firehawk]

IMO, painting it red would be too much. Silver would look nice, but then there is the black wackers.....

It's your XJ do as you desire. It's all good!:thumbsup:

[DETOURS]

Dont worry....he wont listen to any of us anyway......:headshake:

[Mudderoy]

Dont worry....he wont listen to any of us anyway......:headshake:

I listen to everybody. Even my wife, although she believes otherwise. :boohoo:

[BlueXJ]

My wife say I listen fine but never hear a word unless it contains the words Jeep or Harley then she has my undivided attention.

The good thing about Black is it is easy to do the scratch touchups that are required to ward off the rust bugs.

[DETOURS]

mmmmm...black can vary....esp. when dealing with clear coats......just assume chrome the entire vehical....but it's illegal.

[Mudderoy]

mmmmm...black can vary....esp. when dealing with clear coats......just assume chrome the entire vehical....but it's illegal.

All chrome would be nice.

[firehawk]

Man you're sneaking around here posting up when it says you're not "on". Spying on us....humm???

[Mudderoy]

Man you're sneaking around here posting up when it says you're not "on". Spying on us....humm???

Actually a few days ago no one was on all day and I thought it look pretty pathetic that I was the only one on. :rotfl2:

[firehawk]

BTW, nice sticker, sure wish I had one.:boohoo:

[Mudderoy]

Got the labels set up on the computer today. Just need to find the blanks and print them. Also I have NO stamps. Do everything via the Internet so no need for stamps. My goal is to have them out first part of next week.

[Melissa]

I think all red would not be too much, but would look Hot (No pun intended) :thumbsup:

[Mudderoy]

Yeah I do too, but the only way I think I could maintain it would be to paint it myself, then repaint it as needed. With the black paint I really don't have to worry about scuffing the paint.

I'm going to try that paint that Mark suggested. I like the idea of the rubberized feel to it.

[Melissa]

Man you're sneaking around here posting up when it says you're not "on". Spying on us....humm???

lol, Have you not noticed that he has been incognito for over a week
:smiley-laughing021: :poke:

[AJsArmor]

I love that high-tech fixture they're using....:smiley-laughing021: glad to see I'm not the only one.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee18/AJsArmor/Picture361.jpg

Only way to go for custom work. That is a really nice looking bumper and the work is top notch, kudos!:thumbsup:

[BlueXJ]

It is coming along nicely. What winch are you planning on using?

[Mudderoy]

Blue, I think you were asking me about the winch, wasn't sure since AJ posted that picture of his bumper.

Anyway I'm going for the Superwinch epi9.0

[Mudderoy]

Bumper update:

It is packed and ready for pickup. I should have it on Saturday this week.

[kryptonitexj]

Sweet I Cant Wait to see it!!!! Hey Tony, if you need any help with it let me know I live at the belt way and I-10 west. (Not far from katy) If anything I just want to see it.:)

[Mudderoy]

Sweet I Cant Wait to see it!!!! Hey Tony, if you need any help with it let me know I live at the belt way and I-10 west. (Not far from katy) If anything I just want to see it.:)

Hey thanks. I have wait for it, arrrgggg, to be delivered. Then paint it, wait some more for the paint to dry. So I'm not sure on any of the timelines yet.

At the very least we can meet up somewhere and you can get your finger prints all over it! lol

Glad your interested in seeing it first hand. :cheerleader:

[DETOURS]

Look for it as soon as Thursday...:rolleyes:

[DETOURS]

I love that high-tech fixture they're using....:smiley-laughing021: glad to see I'm not the only one.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee18/AJsArmor/Picture361.jpg

Only way to go for custom work. That is a really nice looking bumper and the work is top notch, kudos!:thumbsup:


HeHeee...Thanks, you should see the floor fixture.......Anywho, if your serious about this custom thing, theres no other way!!

[Mudderoy]

Look for it as soon as Thursday...:rolleyes:

I'm so excited I have to stay sitting down behind my desk, maybe until Thursday!

[DETOURS]

Just keep your hands on 'TOP' of the desk please.........

Referance, like to see how it shows up...........UPS 'cost' me a few grand last year in damage, FedEx has been excellent to date, all positive reviews!!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/100_6482sml.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/100_6484sml.jpg

[Mudderoy]

Just keep your hands on 'TOP' of the desk please.........

Referance, like to see how it shows up...........UPS 'cost' me a few grand last year in damage, FedEx has been excellent to date, all positive reviews!!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/100_6482sml.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/100_6484sml.jpg

Wow packed with an easy carrying handle!

[firehawk]

Damn you beat me to it. I was gonna say he was sitting at his desk to hide the wood he is sporting!:D


SHWING!!!!!

[DETOURS]

I'd just peel the card board off the mounting and run it as is.......:cool:

WARNING: It's layered, dont use a knife.......paw at it!! :D

[Mudderoy]

I'd just peel the card board off the mounting and run it as is.......:cool:

WARNING: It's layered, dont use a knife.......paw at it!! :D

OMG! Telling me not to use a knife would be like me telling you how to weld it, oh yeah forgot about that, okay never mind. :D

[Melissa]

Winch Bumper = http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/funny%20pictures/bonerboy.jpg

[pLEXX]

lol hes gonna have to be a cat. btw im going o post some video of my jeep and pics, waiting on sister to email them. im to cheap to go buy a camera

[BlueXJ]

btw im going o post some video of my jeep and pics, waiting on sister to email them. im to cheap to go buy a camera


That is pretty cheap since they are around $25 for a crappy one but that will take pics good enough for interweb usage.

[Mudderoy]

Is that a bumper in your pocket, are or you just happy to see me? :smiley-laughing021:

[Melissa]

Is that a bumper in your pocket, are or you just happy to see me? :smiley-laughing021:

He is staring at your bumper :rotfl2:

[DETOURS]

"If an erection lasts for more than 4 hrs, seek medical attention"............:headbag:


I have'nt seen a 'bumper' yet, that offered me wood..............:smiley-gen165:

[Mudderoy]

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumperdelivery.jpg

[Melissa]

Are you driving yourself and your family nuts yet by all your excitment? :D

[DETOURS]

I'll bet he tracks it every hour or so.........:rotfl2:

Could you imagine Mudd as a child around Christmas time...? :cheerleader:

[Mudderoy]

I'll bet he tracks it every hour or so.........:rotfl2:

Could you imagine Mudd as a child around Christmas time...? :cheerleader:

Hey most girls like a guy that gets excited easily. ;)

[Melissa]

I'll bet he tracks it every hour or so.........:rotfl2:

Could you imagine Mudd as a child around Christmas time...? :cheerleader:

I bet he drove his parents absolutely crazy :rotfl2:

Of course if I had a bumper like his headed my way, I think I would be just a excited. :D

[Melissa]

Hey most girls like a guy that gets excited easily. ;)

Yeah excited about them, not bumpers lol :D

[DETOURS]

Egg timer........:rotfl2:

[Mudderoy]

Egg timer........:rotfl2:

Okay someone asked me today if you could build that bumper for a ZJ. I told him to ask you.

[DETOURS]

Not alot of intrest really......late summer possibly.

I did spot a lightly hit ZJ last weekend, could be a canidate.....the ZJ market is starting to come around as there price drops, less XJ's around.......damn full of electronics though....they have their own issues for wheeling. Numerous WJ requests lately though...

[firehawk]

Egg timer........:rotfl2:

Mudd...the 3 minute man!:D

[Mudderoy]

Mudd...the 3 minute man!:D

woohoo!! I've bested my time by 33.3%

[Mudderoy]

Mudd....that factory skids 'gotta' go, save the front bolts which connect it to the front crossmember, the bumper will tie into this area as discussed.

Personally......I'd consider Plasticoat bedliner spray, it's been re-formulated and is really a nice product in 'rattle can form'.......very black, nice fine texture, and a nice rubbery feel to the cured surface.

Pick up a can and atleast check it out. (NAPA/Walmart/AutoZone- $7.95)

If you later have it painted red, consider who's ever going to paint it will most likely want to start with a freshly sandblasted surface.

$7.47 at Wal-Mart. I got 3 cans.

[Mudderoy]

It's bumper day!!!

[Melissa]

You tease, I want pictures :D

[Mudderoy]

The bumper has been delivered. :smiley-scared002:

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/061-capture.jpg

[kryptonitexj]

Well cut out of work early and get us some pics asap!!!!!

[Mudderoy]

The company I worked for closed the office in Houston after Hurricane Ike. I was interviewing with the company I am with now. I've only been with this company for 5 months. Next month I will be able to start taking sick (with pay) and vacation.

If Mark had just taken 1 month longer I would have taken delivery day off. You know waiting until 6pm to get home and see the bumper is better than waiting another month! :rotfl2:

So tonight is unwrap, set up on some saw horses and paint. Assuming the paint is dry after 24ish hours, I'll bolt it up Friday night.

I'll have some pictures this evening after I get home.

[Mudderoy]

And UPS delivered a day early!

My KC daylighters and KC covers are in!!!

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/068-capture.jpg

[kryptonitexj]

:tongueroll:Cant wait to see pics.:beavis: Keep working till then. :smiley-chores015::smiley-bounce015:

[kryptonitexj]

What time today is your superwinch suppose to be delivered. Its getting late. hahahaha j/k.:)

[Mudderoy]

What time today is your superwinch suppose to be delivered. Its getting late. hahahaha j/k.:)

Oh I wish, but I can't afford the $600 right now. May be quite a while before the winch shows up. Stock market is looking better for the last couple of weeks, so I'm hoping that around September my financial situation should improve.

[kryptonitexj]

Don't hold your breath :smiley-angry021:on the stock market comming back.

[Melissa]

Well lets see it two pm where I am, that makes it four pm where you are, so just another few hours and we get more pictures :popcorn:

[DETOURS]

OMG.........I am SO GLAD Im not your brother, Christmas would have just S_CKED along with BIRTHDAYS, maybe even weddings...................:smiley-scared002:

Hope you enjoy the "unwrap............LOL!!! (Dude's probably doin 75 in 30mph zones right now......takes out 2 dogs and a kitten.....keeps going!)

[BlueXJ]

A kitten OH NO not a kitten.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll187/90BlueXJ/Cute%20Cats/SadKitty.jpg

[DETOURS]

Yup......a poor, shameless, helpless kitten.............:headshake:

[BlueXJ]

Kill the reckless driver. Stone him to death then cover him in cat poo.

[Mudderoy]

Yes you are glad, my brother died last year.

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper40.jpg

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper41.jpg

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper42.jpg

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper43.jpg

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper45.jpg

[afbond03]

Oh My. That thing is a B E A U T!

[Melissa]

Dam Spanky, you did a awsome job on that bumper :thumbsup:

Mudderoy I am really jealous now :drool::tongueroll:

[Mudderoy]

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper46.jpg

[Melissa]

Can't you like call in sick or dead tomorrow and get that bumper installed, post some pics and put me out of my misery :D

Just kidding, I can't wait to see all the lights lit up on your bumper, you are gonna post pics of the lights blinding us right?

[DETOURS]

Box looked GREAT!
Dont be affraid to walk that bedliner spray right to her.......it's no time to be in a hurry......
Hard to photograph......isnt it..
Thanks Mel!

[Mudderoy]

A kitten OH NO not a kitten.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll187/90BlueXJ/Cute%20Cats/SadKitty.jpg

NO KITTENS were injured in my attempt to get home last night.

Two old people and one school crossing guard will be sore for a few days, but thats it! Oh and for the record, I think the wheel chair wheel would have fallen off by itself.

[BlueXJ]

OK then you get a reprieve on this incident. I will speak to the governor about a full pardon if you can prove that wheel would have fallen off anyway.

[Mudderoy]

Can't you like call in sick or dead tomorrow and get that bumper installed, post some pics and put me out of my misery :D

Just kidding, I can't wait to see all the lights lit up on your bumper, you are gonna post pics of the lights blinding us right?

You're going to have to wait JUST LIKE ME! :smiley-laughing021:
Thank you for the interest and the kind words though. Makes it more fun to share when people are curious.


Box looked GREAT!
Dont be affraid to walk that bedliner spray right to her.......it's no time to be in a hurry......
Hard to photograph......isnt it..
Thanks Mel!

Yes very nice work, blah blah blah. Don't you ever get tired of hearing your praises? :smiley-laughing021:
The paint was a good idea. I like the textured look to it. Feels good too! :comfort:

I still haven't completed the install of the slimline. I think I'll take it off Saturday and paint it with the bed liner and then install all those little brackets that have been rattling around the back of the Jeep.

[DETOURS]

A 'complete' install...is always a good idea.

Possibly, you overlooked that there was intrest in the condition of the package when it arrived.....looked like another fine delivery by FedEx, unlike UPS's ability to deler goods undamaged......

Glad you liked the paint suggestion, gimmie a buzz when you've digested breakfest.....:coffee:

[Mudderoy]

A 'complete' install...is always a good idea.

Possibly, you overlooked that there was intrest in the condition of the package when it arrived.....looked like another fine delivery by FedEx, unlike UPS's ability to deler goods undamaged......

Glad you liked the paint suggestion, gimmie a buzz when you've digested breakfest.....:coffee:

I think I e-mailed you this, not sure if you read it yet. There were 3 places on the bumper that were marked by shipping. One was on the passenger side recovery point, one on the main hoop, and one on the passenger side bumper edge. The mark was where the paint was mashed and rubbed off.

The frame connection points seem to be straight which is what I would have expected to see some damage on.

All in all I'd say the bumper made a very good trip from your to mine. Certainly nothing they did to the bumper was anything that paint couldn't fix.

Thanks for the stickers. I put one on the Jeep last night. Once I get everything mounted up I'll take some hires pictures of both the front and rear bumper and shoot them over to you.

[BlueXJ]

OK I'll bite what brackets have you got rattling around in the back of the Jeep?

[Mudderoy]

OK I'll bite what brackets have you got rattling around in the back of the Jeep?

They are "L" shaped brackets that came with the DETOURS slimline bumper that help tie it into the same place the OEM trailer hitch ties into.

I found the instructions "AFTER" I installed the bumper. :D

[Mudderoy]

Spanky "D" was asking me about my security camera. I thought everyone knew about yet another on of my toys. I have four cameras set up around the outside of the house, which I can monitor via Internet. One thing the software will do is e-mail me when it "sees" something happened.

I you might find this interesting.

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/061-capture-lightning.jpg

The trigger for this image? Lighting!

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/061-capture-lighting-close.jpg

Here is a flash closer to the camera rofl

[TeXJ]

CONGRATS!!!! on the bumper

[DETOURS]

Ever catch Santa coming down the chimney?? Oh wait......your in Texas..:smiley-laughing021:

[Mudderoy]

Well crap guys. I'm sorry, but I was DOG ASSED tired when I got home, so I took a nap. Just woke up. It's pretty late to be working on the Jeep now (all that cussing, ya know) so I'll tackle it first thing in the morning. Look for the pictures tomorrow afternoon probably.

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper47.jpg

[Mudderoy]

Current configuration...

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper49.jpg

Here's what it should look like with the 5 KC lights.

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper48.jpg

[Melissa]

:drool: Oooooohhhhh :drool:

Are the first two KC's blocking part of your headlights? Can you get in trouble with the PD if they are?

[BlueXJ]

:drool: Oooooohhhhh :drool:

Are the first two KC's blocking part of your headlights? Can you get in trouble with the PD if they are?

She is worried about your lights and I am worried about your airflow over the radiator.

[muddeprived]

Current configuration...

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper49.jpg

Here's what it should look like with the 5 KC lights.

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper48.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/sweetjesus.gif

[muddeprived]

She is worried about your lights and I am worried about your airflow over the radiator.

She is worried about your lights, blue is worried about your airflow, and I am worried about how I am going to bypass your home security system and steal that bumper. if I manage to succeed, I will leave a KC or two for you, just to be nice.

[Mudderoy]

Thanks man thats desent of you. You'll find a cresent wrech nearby. :smiley-laughing021:

[Mudderoy]

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper50.jpg

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper51.jpg

[DETOURS]

Looks snug as a bug in a rug.......I'd like to see what it would look like with just 3 lights in the center......:thumbsup:

[Melissa]

That really does look awsome, do you and your wife both love red?

[Mudderoy]

Favorite color. We almost read each other's thoughts. lol

[Mudderoy]

I'll have to do some work to make it only 3 on the main hoop. Making it 4 was simple, so here is a 4 alternative. I like it, less busy. Also KC has covers that are black with red KC on them. I've always been fond of the yellow covers though.


http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper52.jpg

[BlueXJ]

I like it better with the 4 lights on the hoops.

[DETOURS]

Yup...4 is less 'busy........still like to see 3....;)

[firehawk]

I'm with Spanky, 3 on the center hoop.

BTW, what are you trying to do, melt the paint off the vehicle in front of you?:D

BTW-2, So THAT is what watching video's on a computer is like?:rotfl2: Funny video!

[DETOURS]

Frankly, with that many lights, ever having to operate the winch at the same time while just letting the vehical operate running........something's gonna melt.....

What ever number of lights, just wire 2 per switch.......:rolleyes:

[Melissa]

I'll have to do some work to make it only 3 on the main hoop. Making it 4 was simple, so here is a 4 alternative. I like it, less busy. Also KC has covers that are black with red KC on them. I've always been fond of the yellow covers though.


http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper52.jpg

I agree with everyones else as well, this way looks good. :cheerleader:

[BlueXJ]

Ya just need that hook hangin' out in the front. Where you gonna put your tag?

[Mudderoy]

Someone told me, can't remember who, to get some flashlight brackets mount them to the back of a license plate holder, then put the license plate in the holder.

Now the the whole thing clips on to one of the fair lead rollers. Pop it off/on as needed.

[Mudderoy]

Frankly, with that many lights, ever having to operate the winch at the same time while just letting the vehical operate running........something's gonna melt.....

What ever number of lights, just wire 2 per switch.......:rolleyes:

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper53.jpg

[BlueXJ]

Might work in Katy but down here the tag would be across the border by the time you finished your first cup of coffee. Mine is clamped between the fairlead plate for the rollers and the bumper. You will need wrenches to get mine.

[Mudderoy]

Might work in Katy but down here the tag would be across the border by the time you finished your first cup of coffee. Mine is clamped between the fairlead plate for the rollers and the bumper. You will need wrenches to get mine.

Well mine is an amateur radio operator plate so it looks like a personalized plate. Might make a difference to someone that would want to steal it. Stands out too much.

[BlueXJ]

Used to have mine on the Surco but was stopped by a DPS around Kingsville and said that it needed to be on the front bumper so I moved it on down and could not find a suitable secure place until I installed it as I described.

[DETOURS]

I like the 3 light set up........:rolleyes:

Toss the plate in your front window for now........the fuzz should have better things to do.

[Mudderoy]

I like the 3 light set up........:rolleyes:

Toss the plate in your front window for now........the fuzz should have better things to do.

Just proves my point that you are odd. :rotfl2:

I've got it in the cargo area, and a couple of long nylon tie wraps in the console. If I get stopped I can fix it while they watch. lol

[firehawk]

Dittos on the 3 light setup. Just don't turn on those lights without taking the covers off. I'm sure they will melt REAL quick!:thumbdown: KC does sell plastic guards in yellow that don't need to be removed when the lights are on. They look like the black one's on mine now.

You mean to tell me that "guy" in KY didn't provide a place to mount a front plate?:rotfl2:

BTW, I think SmittyBilt makes a set of mounts for a plate that snaps onto and clamps to the rollers on the fairlead. Not very theft proof though.

[DETOURS]

The clips on the farelead were talked about, besides....in the land of KY, no front plate is required or issued......trailers dont require plates at all.:rolleyes:

I'm waiting for some pictures from 'beyond' the driveway........how does it feel driving? Noticable?

[Mudderoy]

The clips on the farelead were talked about, besides....in the land of KY, no front plate is required or issued......trailers dont require plates at all.:rolleyes:

I'm waiting for some pictures from 'beyond' the driveway........how does it feel driving? Noticable?

I was going to go this evening, but it got dark while I was washing her.

I may try to go tomorrow after work. That barn is about 5 minutes from the house.

No I don't notice anything different in how it handles. I just see little of the yellow tops KC lights. If I didn't see that the experience would be the same as driving it before. We'll see if that changes when I get the winch on there.

[_StationWagon_]

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/bumper45.jpg

A true work of art. Wow.


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(Spanky you should be banned for making everyone ruin their keyboards with the drool. I woulda suggested Mudderoy, but we can't very well ban the forum owner now can we?)

[kryptonitexj]

B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would ALMOST trade my JCR stage 2 winch bumper for that one. (Almost!!!!) It is truly a work of ART. Mudderoy You have one beautiful Jeep. I'm so Jealous.

[BlueXJ]

B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mudderoy You have one beautiful Jeep. I'm so Jealous.



The only thing it needs now is a winch and to be painted RED!!

[Mudderoy]

B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would ALMOST trade my JCR stage 2 winch bumper for that one. (Almost!!!!) It is truly a work of ART. Mudderoy You have one beautiful Jeep. I'm so Jealous.

Thanks. I haven't forgot about you. We'll get together soon so you can put your hands on it, but I'll warning you right now no tongue! :smiley-laughing021:

[kryptonitexj]

My tongue if your lucky!!!!! When I'm done with with your bumper It will be Pregnant with twins!!!!:oops: Hahahah j/k but seriously though.

[Mudderoy]

My tongue if your lucky!!!!! When I'm done with with your bumper It will be Pregnant with twins!!!!:oops: Hahahah j/k but seriously though.

:lmao:

:driving:

[DETOURS]

A true work of art. Wow.


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(Spanky you should be banned for making everyone ruin their keyboards with the drool. I woulda suggested Mudderoy, but we can't very well ban the forum owner now can we?)

Thankyou very much...........Some of my old local friends back east called some of my stuff "furniture grade" fabrications...lol, they say their own work looks much better since I've left......:headbag:

Thanks for the kind words. :headbag:

[mizedog]

:rant:New to XJTALK but have watched Mudderoy's build up for a while. I once said his was the prettiest XJ I've seen. He broke my heart when he started adding black (Bushwackers). I really liked how clean it was because I don't like chopped up tin can XJs.
:rant:

So my knee jerk reaction was to vote for a red bumper. However, I think with diamond plating red wouldn't look right. Go black with the bumper, go red with the BWs. Stick with three KCs, send the rest back. Buy the way, Harbor Freight made some awesome 5" driving lights that look just like the KCs and have a MUCH wider spread for trail work. Best buy in trail lighting, period.


BTW, I just got my new winch bumper from Logan's Metals. I can wait to put it on. Now I'm struggling with what winch to buy (money's an issue).

See ya.

[Mudderoy]

:rant:New to XJTALK but have watched Mudderoy's build up for a while. I once said his was the prettiest XJ I've seen. He broke my heart when he started adding black (Bushwackers). I really liked how clean it was because I don't like chopped up tin can XJs.
:rant:

So my knee jerk reaction was to vote for a red bumper. However, I think with diamond plating red wouldn't look right. Go black with the bumper, go red with the BWs. Stick with three KCs, send the rest back. Buy the way, Harbor Freight made some awesome 5" driving lights that look just like the KCs and have a MUCH wider spread for trail work. Best buy in trail lighting, period.


BTW, I just got my new winch bumper from Logan's Metals. I can wait to put it on. Now I'm struggling with what winch to buy (money's an issue).

See ya.

Me too, Superwinch epi9.0 baby! Hey don't be a tease, post some pictures of the rig and the winch bumper.

[mizedog]

:rant:I once said his was the prettiest XJ I've seen.

Ok, I now realize this sounded like a total smooze. :sign0202:

[BlueXJ]

Do we have a competition between Mudd and Mize. Prettiest Jeep contest we can vote at the end of the month.

[Mudderoy]

Ok just got back from taking pictures. Here's one I grabbed out of the bunch.

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/Jeep_Photoshoot46.jpg

And another.
http://xjtalk.com/images/special/Jeep_Photoshoot47.jpg

[xjjeepthing]

Looks good

[Melissa]

Can I touch her too :drool:

Looking awesome.


Okay mizedog, don't be a tease, I'm a picture lover, Lets see them ;)

[firehawk]

All THAT just in case another hurricane comes your way?:smiley-scared002: Is that what you keep telling your wife? :headbag:

Would you just take that Jeep out and wheel it!:D It needs some mud:p.

BTW, it is nice looking!:drool:

[Mudderoy]

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/Jeep_Photoshoot49.jpg

[DETOURS]

Nice pic! :popcorn:

[Mudderoy]

Nice pic! :popcorn:

Thanks. She's a pretty little thing, but a bugger to iron!

[Mudderoy]

Nice pic! :popcorn:

Since I have removed the light weight OEM bumper mount and replaced it with the STOUT Detours mount, do I need to get a steering box brace?

[BlueXJ]

I have never felt the need for one but if you are going places like Katemcy Rocks then you may need one.

[DETOURS]

No, from what I know...you're not going to bind your rubbers between rock. :driving:

[_StationWagon_]

Do we have a competition between Mudd and Mize. Prettiest Jeep contest we can vote at the end of the month.
There's no "prettiest Jeep" contest without mine in it. And Mudderoy knows it. He quakes in fear when I arrive ... :D.

[mizedog]

Can I touch her too :drool:

Looking awesome.


Okay mizedog, don't be a tease, I'm a picture lover, Lets see them ;)

Here ya go:
http://www.xjtalk.com/showthread.php?t=223

[Melissa]

Here ya go:
http://www.xjtalk.com/showthread.php?t=223

Thanks :D

[Midknight]

I have never been a fan of diamond plating, but GD that looks really nice. Good job!