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mizedog
04-20-2009, 11:42 PM
Not as "spiffy" as Mudderoy's new Detours bumper, but seems like a good value. I can't wait to get it on the Jeep. I'll primer it and spray bedliner in the inside this weekend. I'll paint body color and clear coat on the outside once the paint comes. I'm very concerned about getting the steering bolts out without them breaking.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010019-1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010020-1-1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010021.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010023-1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010026-1.jpg
I'm considering adding a grill bar before though. I'm hoping the internal bracing is adequate.
Thoughts?

Mudderoy
04-21-2009, 12:20 AM
Nothing wrong with that bumper. At least it's not a box, it has style!

I don't know if you are concerned about replacing the bumper, but I didn't have any problems with mine. The bolts inside the factory bumper were hard to reach, so I was glad I had an airtool to undo them.

Are you going to paint it silver, or black?

I would have a look at that PlastiKote that Spanky told me about. Rattle can and nice.

mizedog
04-21-2009, 04:15 AM
Re: air tools. I'll keep that in mind and may break out the CO2 tank for instant air

Re: paint. I'll primer with Rustoleum. I'll use Duplicolor truck bed liner on the inside because I had it in the garage. On the outside I'll use colormatched silver with a clear coat. I only bought one 12 oz. can of the silver and cc. I hope that's enough.

I do like the look of it and got a great deal. Logan's also give repeat customer discounts so I may go with their rear bumper.

BlueXJ
04-21-2009, 06:50 AM
Looks good. Can't wait to see it on the Jeep.

DETOURS
04-21-2009, 08:38 AM
Looks good.....How many bolts connect the bracket to the bumper?

Something else.....you may want to sandblast the scale off the brackets and the winch area prior to painting, it will promote rust (leaving scale on) in the near future as it flakes, it's intended to preserve the surface under it from rusting while the steel is being transported/stored....etc. (just 3 cents worth of info)


(Wiki)
Mill scale is a milling waste generated while rolling the metal in metal extrusion industries. for example when iron ingot are rolled, pressed or other wise forcibly converted into different profiles the upper layer of metal leaves scales those can not be utilized for steel making unless re-processed in sinter feeding steel production units. Iron Mill scale generally contains more than 70% of Fe.

Mudderoy
04-21-2009, 08:42 AM
Re: air tools. I'll keep that in mind and may break out the CO2 tank for instant air

Re: paint. I'll primer with Rustoleum. I'll use Duplicolor truck bed liner on the inside because I had it in the garage. On the outside I'll use colormatched silver with a clear coat. I only bought one 12 oz. can of the silver and cc. I hope that's enough.

I do like the look of it and got a great deal. Logan's also give repeat customer discounts so I may go with their rear bumper.

Sorry, I missed the paint color you were going to use the first time. Too busy looking at the picture I suspect.

The front of your jeep is going to look really different with that skinny bumper. It will look good, just strange at first. Although this may not be your first custom bumper.

Melissa
04-21-2009, 01:42 PM
Bumper looks good, can't wait to see it on ;)

mizedog
04-21-2009, 01:46 PM
Looks good.....How many bolts connect the bracket to the bumper? It looks like 5 bolts per side. Nuts are welded in.

Something else.....you may want to sandblast the scale off the brackets and the winch area prior to painting, it will promote rust (leaving scale on) in the near future as it flakes, it's intended to preserve the surface under it from rusting while the steel is being transported/stored....etc. (just 3 cents worth of info)


(Wiki)
Mill scale is a milling waste generated while rolling the metal in metal extrusion industries. for example when iron ingot are rolled, pressed or other wise forcibly converted into different profiles the upper layer of metal leaves scales those can not be utilized for steel making unless re-processed in sinter feeding steel production units. Iron Mill scale generally contains more than 70% of Fe. Thanks for this info - stand up guy and Van Halen fan. I seriously considered your full bumper as pictured on your sight (even e-mailed you about it). Unfortunately, it came down to cost for me. I'm trying to keep my wife at home with the little munchkins as long as possible. This may preclude getting a winch for a while.:boohoo:


I'll get pics up as soon as I can. I'll try to borrow my Dad's sand blaster.

DETOURS
04-21-2009, 06:34 PM
Thankyou for considering.......I'm just trying to assist as far as what I know about steel and expected performance over time.

_StationWagon_
04-22-2009, 12:06 PM
I've seen these on ebay. Would be great to see your finished pics. I did consider getting one,but still haven't come up with a good reason yet for me getting a non-stock front bumper. Especially since I don't want a winch.

BlueXJ
04-22-2009, 03:06 PM
I've seen these on ebay. Would be great to see your finished pics. I did consider getting one,but still haven't come up with a good reason yet for me getting a non-stock front bumper. Especially since I don't want a winch.


3 word answer is "Better approach angle" 'nuff said.

DETOURS
04-22-2009, 07:15 PM
Words from a 'wheeler'.......:thumbsup:

_StationWagon_
04-22-2009, 11:55 PM
3 word answer is "Better approach angle" 'nuff said.

I don't see a winch bumper having a better approach angle than my stock bumper. Maybe a non-winch. I could be wrong tho. But you're telling this to someone who used wheel with a Hidden Hitch receiver in the front, and now I have a tucked up DrawTite. You all know how low the HH hangs down. It didn't stop me from tackling the rocks at Rausch (& it took quite a beating!)

Anyway the hitch is still below the bumper ... and I plan to keep it.

BlueXJ
04-23-2009, 11:12 AM
Most winch bumpers require some trimming to make them follow the body lines, so the little airdam is the first to go thus you end up with a better approach angle. That was my meaning, which I failed to convey.

cher96
05-03-2009, 06:49 AM
Believe it or not.... Logans 4x4 accidentally sent me 2 brackets for the passenger side. The owner just happened to be in Clearwater FL and came to my home in Tampa and replaced the brackets with the correct ones and remounted my bumper. I can not say enough about Customer Service. Here is their Web site: http://www.logansmetals4x4.com/index.html

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo61/billzjeep/SANY0991.jpg

BlueXJ
05-03-2009, 06:58 AM
Wow impressive. Now to select a winch.

DETOURS
05-03-2009, 08:51 AM
Nice look'in bumpa. :thumbsup:

mizedog
05-04-2009, 07:44 AM
Well, I tried to sandblast this thing to get to clean metal. Lots of fun standing in 35* freezing fog/mist for hours! The cheap HF sandblaster didn't put out as much as I expected. I think the medium was to coarse. I moved to a 4" grinder which was way too aggressive. I'll have to smooth some of the grooves out from that :mad0090:. I ended up using a die grinder with a brass wire brush. That worked pretty well except on the middle section (1/4" piece) which seemed to have some kind of coating on it. Paint thinner did better but there's a lot still on there. I didn't get the brackets dones before I had to come home. Tonight I'm hoping for dryer weather but it's still super foggy out this morning. If it does dry out I'll shoot it with Rustoleum primer.
I'm so ready to get this thing on!

A winch might have to wait due to the money I'm putting out for 4.56 gears (ouch).

mizedog
05-04-2009, 07:47 AM
3 word answer is "Better approach angle" 'nuff said.

You can really see the better approach angle on the corners of the bumper in Cher96's pic.

Thanks for the pic!

cher96
05-04-2009, 08:54 AM
Just so you all know... I did not put the Winch Plate on because I haven't a Winch yet. Otherwise it's all there. If anyone wants Photos of the Mounting Brackets... I'll have to go out and take Photos and Post them. Just ask and I will be happy to do so. :-)

cher96
05-04-2009, 09:03 AM
BTW. I had ordered my Bumper Powder Coated and we Shaker Canned it to have it match my Trim. I did not want to hassle with having to clean up the Rust, sand to a nice Finish, Prime and then Paint the Bumper. The Powder Coat was only $70 or so and was baked on in their Ovens at their shop before shipping. :)

DETOURS
05-04-2009, 09:15 AM
Truth be told, 9 out of 10 times powder coaters do a simple chemical wipe down prior to powder coating, they dont take the time to sandblast the steel truely clean. (This does not mean the manufacturer discussed dosent 'blast, I have NO IDEA) If you see powder coat lift from an edge of the fabrication, it was not sandblated, the scale left on the product is the cause.

Just some useless info.............:popcorn:

cher96
05-04-2009, 09:28 AM
Truth be told, 9 out of 10 times powder coaters do a simple chemical wipe down prior to powder coating, they dont take the time to sandblast the steel truely clean. (This does not mean the manufacturer discussed dosent 'blast, I have NO IDEA) If you see powder coat lift from an edge of the fabrication, it was not sandblated, the scale left on the product is the cause.

Just some useless info.............:popcorn:

Thanks.. No problems with my Logans4x4 Bumper... however, My Customs4x4 Rear Bumper does have some Blisters (Lifting) on some Edges and Corners. Now, I know what that is from... Thanks.

mizedog
05-04-2009, 01:52 PM
Just some useless info.............:popcorn:

This is NOT useless info! If it wasn't for your warning earlier in the thread, I would have just 409'd it and painted it. To honest, I still think it's going to peel/rust in places. But, hopefully the Rustoleum primer will delay that a bit. Thankfully, this bumper is separate from the mounting brackets so it should be easy to remove the bumper by itself in the future for clean up.

DETOURS
05-04-2009, 08:29 PM
Meh, I know it's not useless info.........just did'nt want to come accross wrong, powder-coat has it's place, but unfortunitly many manufacturers dont have it applied correctly, and use it as a short cut cover up.......personally I'll take paint over powder, any day.

muddeprived
05-05-2009, 07:20 AM
Not as "spiffy" as Mudderoy's new Detours bumper, but seems like a good value. I can't wait to get it on the Jeep. I'll primer it and spray bedliner in the inside this weekend. I'll paint body color and clear coat on the outside once the paint comes. I'm very concerned about getting the steering bolts out without them breaking.

I'm considering adding a grill bar before though. I'm hoping the internal bracing is adequate.
Thoughts?

Heat em up before you try to remove em. It'll melt the locktight. I snapped two of mine because I was unaware of the locktight holding them.

Mudderoy
05-05-2009, 10:12 AM
I know you guys will ding me on this, but I had ZERO problems removing the bolts. They were tight, but came right out. So if there is an issue getting the bolts removed it would be some other influence than the locktight.

Oh and I am the only owner of this Jeep, and these bolts have been on since the original construction.

muddeprived
05-05-2009, 02:49 PM
I know you guys will ding me on this, but I had ZERO problems removing the bolts. They were tight, but came right out. So if there is an issue getting the bolts removed it would be some other influence than the locktight.

Oh and I am the only owner of this Jeep, and these bolts have been on since the original construction.

That could be rust........:mad0090:hate :mad0090: rust:mad0090:

cher96
05-11-2009, 05:50 PM
Wow! Logan's Metal Products has my XJ featured on their XJ page.

Once for their Frame Extensions and another for Featured XJs.

How cool!

http://www.logansmetals4x4.com/id9.html

muddeprived
05-11-2009, 09:09 PM
Wow! Logan's Metal Products has my XJ featured on their XJ page.

Once for their Frame Extensions and another for Featured XJs.

How cool!

http://www.logansmetals4x4.com/id9.html

Now that's cool! :thumbsup:

mizedog
05-12-2009, 06:31 PM
Wow! Logan's Metal Products has my XJ featured on their XJ page.

Once for their Frame Extensions and another for Featured XJs.

How cool!

http://www.logansmetals4x4.com/id9.html

That's a great picture! Well deserved.

Hopefully they'll have room for mine. It should go on this weekend. The gears are going in on Thursday/Friday.

mizedog
05-14-2009, 11:12 PM
Well, mods always go slowly for me and I'm just now painting the bumper. First coats were Rust-o-leum filling primer (brown).
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0052.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0055.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0056.jpg
I sprayed the inside with Dupli Color Truck Bed Liner. My new point and shoot camera could see I missed a spot better than I could.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0059.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0061.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0062.jpg
I'll spray the front top and back with a gray primer, then color matched silver paint, topped by clear coat.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0058.jpg
The goal is to keep the bumper from looking as part of the Jeep. I'll pick up the Jeep from the gear shop Friday. Hopefully, I'll be able to get the grade 8 mounting bolts on Saturday and get this bumper going.
Anyone want my stock front bumper...?

Mudderoy
05-15-2009, 09:49 AM
Very nice. That winch plate looks a little thin, any concerns?

mizedog
05-16-2009, 12:11 AM
Very nice. That winch plate looks a little thin, any concerns?

Fair question!
Look at the top picture, just to the left of the box. There's a winch mounting plant that incorporates the fairlead mount. It's approximately 1/4" thick and goes between the bumper and the bottom of the winch. Hopefully this will be enough.
But, the winch mount part of the bumper is actually thicker than the rest of the bumper (I think around 3/16 at least). I'll measure and reply.

Mudderoy
05-16-2009, 01:10 AM
Ok I see it. Well I'm no expert it just looked really thin. I wonder if that plate will be good enough, or if it should be welded to the bumper.

mizedog
05-16-2009, 10:05 PM
I primed with gray, then painted the silver on today.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0071.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0065.jpg
Mudderoy, the winch mount area is 3/16" thick. The winch plate that goes on top is 1/4" thick. It's 14" wide so there is 2-3 inches of just 3/16" steel on either side before you get to the upright brace below. However, there is triangulation for strength.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0072.jpg
You can see the trinagulation here:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0055.jpg
The silver paint is thick, but blotchy
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0075.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0078.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/IMG_0076.jpg
I'm hoping that a little super fine sanding will even it out. I know that would need to be done before the clear coat goes on . Any tips would be appreciated.

mizedog
05-26-2009, 12:16 PM
Well, "fine" sanding with 400 and 600 grit just took off too much paint. Then I couldn't find the exact paint code in town. With my trip approaching, I just picked up a can of the closest Dupli-Color Truck/SUV silver and touched up where the primer was showing through. I've since emptied the can of clear coat on the bumper. The weather has been more like Portland's than Colorado's. I changed the diff gear oil in the rain because I needed to before the trip. Hopefully tonight will be nicer so I'll be dry when installing this bumper.

I heard, but couldn't see the Air Force jets flying for the Academy's graduation today. Usually they fly right past my office window. Where's the sun?

mizedog
05-26-2009, 11:33 PM
Well, after days and days of rain, I finally had my chance to get the bumper on. My wife has been super patient with me as the XJ's getting more of my time than she is...:headshake:

My biggest concern with this install was the steering box bolts. I didn't know if they would break off or not. It turns out every bolt can out easy as pie.

I was really impressed with the accuracy of Logan's Metals. Also the fact that the mounting brackets are separate from the bumper. This made it really easy to lift the bumper up and get it on. The fit was dead on!

The only downside is the absence of any instructions. I did get all the recommended bolts but still had to guess. I had to reuse the steering box bolts. I'll probably get some longer grade 8 bolts to replace those.

Here are pics. I'll get some lighter pics tomorrow.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010029-1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010031.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010034.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010035-2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010038.jpg

xjjeepthing
05-27-2009, 06:08 AM
Thats hot, Me likey

Mudderoy
05-27-2009, 08:32 AM
Boy a front bumper really makes a big difference in the "attitude" of the XJ doesn't it?

No offense to any of you with a boring flat front bumper, but I sure do like a bumper with a few angles thrown in there. There is nothing wrong with a little style with your functionality.

Looks like it should be pretty easy to take off and get the paint right later.

BlueXJ
05-27-2009, 12:57 PM
Looks great.

mizedog
05-28-2009, 08:44 PM
Well, I finally have some better pics. By the way, my front end doesn't seem to have dropped from the weight of the bumper.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010042.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010046.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010047.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010053.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010071.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010066.jpg

Audio222
05-28-2009, 08:54 PM
Looks great but I really like those tires. I will have to check them out.

xjjeepthing
05-28-2009, 09:27 PM
Nice Miz. looks great.

BlueXJ
05-28-2009, 09:31 PM
I'm impressed at how good that looks. Why have we not heard great things about this bumpa before. Never even heard of Logans before your write up.

mizedog
05-29-2009, 01:11 AM
I'm impressed at how good that looks. Why have we not heard great things about this bumpa before. Never even heard of Logans before your write up.
They just got into the XJ and early Bronco stuff but have been around for years making CJ dashes. I bought a CJ dash in stainless and it was great. This is nice too. I like that the mounting brackets are separate so once they're on the Jeep, you just set the bumper on it. You're not lifting the whole thing to get is adjusted.

lectrode
06-02-2009, 02:01 PM
I've had mine since 10/07 and it has held up nicely.
http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lectrode/WinchBumper020.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lectrode/WinchBumper018.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lectrode/WinchBumper019.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lectrode/WinchBumper026.jpg

Mudderoy
06-02-2009, 02:07 PM
Man I want a winch for my bumper so bad. It never ends does it. :boohoo:

Keep in mind I'm still a noob, but I've never seen that type of farilead on a cable winch. Looks slick.

lectrode
06-02-2009, 02:56 PM
Man I want a winch for my bumper so bad. It never ends does it. :boohoo:

Keep in mind I'm still a noob, but I've never seen that type of farilead on a cable winch. Looks slick.


Your right about it never ending,there's always something I need or want
for my XJ.The wife would LIKE for it to end,but I told her that's not going to happen.She still lets me in the house.:D


Thanks!:).........

Melissa
06-02-2009, 03:40 PM
Well, I finally have some better pics. By the way, my front end doesn't seem to have dropped from the weight of the bumper.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010042.jpg


I really like it and your jeep :drool::drool::drool:




I've had mine since 10/07 and it has held up nicely.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lectrode/WinchBumper018.jpg


Looks very good!!, I'm jealous

Where did you get your hood vents?

lectrode
06-02-2009, 04:35 PM
I got them on Ebay,they are Chrysler Lebaron hood vents.

jugbutt
06-14-2009, 07:59 PM
Man that is a sweet bumper!

It's got style. love it

mizedog
06-15-2009, 07:08 AM
I really like it and your jeep :drool::drool::drool:

Thanks! I just got back from a two week vacation trip to California. The bumper is responsible for the death of several flying insects. The evidence is still on the bumper. I'll clean them off today. After a couple of weeks with the bumper on, I'm glad I went with the body-matched color. I like the integrated look.

By the way, the ol' Jeep did great on the trip. I was THOROUGHLY impressed with the amount of power I had at sea level compared to 7,000 feet here in Colorado. The 4.56s I'm sure were a part of that. Even still, the way-overloaded Jeep pulled over Monarch Pass (11,300 feet), and I-70 through the tunnel (about the save elivation) without problems.

BlueXJ
06-15-2009, 07:25 AM
Very glad the trip went well. Was it any better or worse on fuel at sea level?

_StationWagon_
06-15-2009, 05:22 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010066.jpg
Well, that does it for me. This pic tells me I'd never install it on my Jeep. I've been looking at them on eBay for a while and always thought they look good (I still do), but the front extends too far forward for my liking. Great looking setup, though.

mizedog
06-16-2009, 02:05 PM
Well, that does it for me. This pic tells me I'd never install it on my Jeep. I've been looking at them on eBay for a while and always thought they look good (I still do), but the front extends too far forward for my liking. Great looking setup, though.


This was a concern for me too. Interestingly enough, when I first put it on, it was tucked in an inch or so. Unfortunately, I had to pull it out to get the bolt holes to line up. Moving the bolt holes would be good feedback for Logan's Metals.

If I was still doing heavy rock crawling, the approach angle would really come into play (and may still at Moab). But, I'll be sticking to easier trails, and deep snow. Keep in mind, however, that the approach angle seems to be really good from an angle; maybe better than most other designs that offer better straight-ahead approach angle. Also, it's very common (at least for me) to attack steep hills/rocks from an angle anyway. I'll try to post after taking it out on the trails. I plan on doing the Miner's Loop, Alpine Loop, Medano Pass, Wheeler Lake, and Bill Moore Lake here in Colorado. Nothing extreme yet according to www.traildamage.com.

N1TZU
06-16-2009, 06:23 PM
Hey mizedog, Just read through the thread,awesome bumper you got there,Great job. Bob.............

mizedog
06-20-2009, 04:06 PM
Well, that does it for me. This pic tells me I'd never install it on my Jeep. I've been looking at them on eBay for a while and always thought they look good (I still do), but the front extends too far forward for my liking. Great looking setup, though.

Ok, I just measured how far the "chin" sticks out:
8" from the grill to the front edge measured right under the Jeep logo.
10" from the end grill to the front edge of the shackle mount.

I'm not sure if this is in line with other bumper manufacturers, but I do think the picture give the illusion that it sticks out more due to camera position.

Who knows...

_StationWagon_
06-21-2009, 03:46 PM
Nah, 8" still too much for me. I really don't have plans to get a winch, and I do the rock crawling thing whenever I trailer the Jeep, so the approach would be of some concern to me. But then again,I do have a hitch below the stock bumper. I like the looks of that bumper on your Jeep, especially with the body color. But I'm thinking of going with something less frontally obtrusive, perhaps a Warrior or some similar non-winch bumper. But you never know ... it wouldn't be the first time I changed my mind. After I got 5" lift I said that was it. Now I'm seriously eyeing another inch ... or so ... :p .

mizedog
11-13-2009, 08:14 AM
Nah, 8" still too much for me.

Hey all. I've been away from the forums lately due to spending time on the basement finishing project.

Thought I'd let you know that I went on several trail runs this summer and had no issues with approach angles due to the front overhang. I paid close attention to this because some of the comments here. I did get several complements on the bumper - even from TJ guys. None thought it stuck out too far. I'm not doing the Hammer trails with this Jeep, however. Just mild to medium. The toughest this year was Wheeler Lake (http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=40). Next year I may be a little more adventurous since I'll have 33s and a little more ground clearance.

Mudderoy
11-13-2009, 09:30 AM
Hey all. I've been away from the forums lately due to spending time on the basement finishing project.

Thought I'd let you know that I went on several trail runs this summer and had no issues with approach angles due to the front overhang. I paid close attention to this because some of the comments here. I did get several complements on the bumper - even from TJ guys. None thought it stuck out too far. I'm not doing the Hammer trails with this Jeep, however. Just mild to medium. The toughest this year was Wheeler Lake (http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=40). Next year I may be a little more adventurous since I'll have 33s and a little more ground clearance.

Thanks for coming back to let us know. Get a computer in the basement! :patriot:

mizedog
11-13-2009, 06:09 PM
Thanks for coming back to let us know. Get a computer in the basement! :patriot:


I've got a 14'x14' "craftroom" that will have a 14' countertop with 3-5' returns on both sides. One corner is the computer corner. The other is the "craft/ scrapbooking/woodburning" corner. On the other side of the room I made a two "story" playhouse for the girls. I'm making the wife and kids happy first. After this comes my 13'x18' home theater! All I need in the HT is carpeting and a projector and I'm ready to watch movies - even though I'd be sitting on the new carpet.

Say... XJTALK.com videos on an 8' screen!

Mudderoy
11-13-2009, 06:11 PM
I've got a 14'x14' "craftroom" that will have a 14' countertop with 3-5' returns on both sides. One corner is the computer corner. The other is the "craft/ scrapbooking/woodburning" corner. On the other side of the room I made a two "story" playhouse for the girls. I'm making the wife and kids happy first. After this comes my 13'x18' home theater! All I need in the HT is carpeting and a projector and I'm ready to watch movies - even though I'd be sitting on the new carpet.

Say... XJTALK.com videos on an 8' screen!

I'll assume your wife is the scrapbooker. Tell her about www.cropnite.com. :thumbsup:

muddeprived
11-13-2009, 06:16 PM
hey Mizedog, I dunno if you fixed that broken flare yet but if not, check this out!

http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RA-FLR1-XJ-X&Category_Code=SALE

mizedog
11-13-2009, 06:41 PM
I'll assume your wife is the scrapbooker. Tell her about www.cropnite.com. :thumbsup:

She's mostly converted to digital using Heritage Makers. It's a pretty darn powerful web-based "photo shop". I like what she does because they come out as hard backed books that won't break, or knock glued-on trinkets off of. P.M. me if you want her website.

She did me up a REALLY cool poster of my old CJ before I sold it as she knew I'd wine about selling it. She was actually able to make a border using the pattern from the Swamper STLsx's!

00XJinPA
11-13-2009, 11:20 PM
Hey nice bumper i got a Logans too! :thumbsup:

Logans91XJ
11-14-2009, 03:05 AM
All i know is that this bumper is on the top of my list for mods!!! Esp the name!! Oh yeah

mizedog
11-16-2009, 08:02 AM
hey Mizedog, I dunno if you fixed that broken flare yet but if not, check this out!

http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RA-FLR1-XJ-X&Category_Code=SALE

Thanks for the info - the link didn't work for me, but I saw this a few days ago. Luckily, I replaced that rear passenger flare when I got back from California. The rear half of it fell off. Hopefully they'll still have the flexy flares later. I'm not sure. Or, maybe Icelandic Offroad will start them for XJs.

mizedog
01-05-2010, 08:08 AM
I finally got a winch to adorn the winch bumper. I toiled over chosing between the Superwinch (I love it, but it's heavy), the Warn M8000 (get's me the name, but I hear it has solenoid problems), and the Smittybilt. I ended up going with the Smitty w/ synthetic line to keep the weight down. Keeping the weight down is really important to me for this daily driver. I've read that this newer series wound winch is really a rebadged T-Max and is pretty solid. I'll give it a try. If it crashes on me, I'll probably trade it in for the M8000. Here's the first pics:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010002.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010003.jpg
I can't see any sagging in the front end. It's seems to be at the same ride height
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010004-2.jpg
I still have to get the fog lights on there. Note that the mounting bolts that came with the winch are 10Mx1.5x30mm. That's not long enough to get through the 7/16" of bumper/plate material. I had to buy some 40mm long bolts which were perfect. Any longer would have hit the body of the winch and broken the winch body.

Oh, the tires ROCK in the snow and ice. The sipes really open up to grip the snow. See:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/P1010066-1.jpg There is rubbing on the Rusty's flares, but that should be easy to deal with.

Mudderoy
01-05-2010, 09:27 AM
Very nice! Thanks for the pictures. It will be interesting to hear how the Smitty built treats you over time. I suspect it will be just fine, and you'll feel great about saving $200.

mizedog
04-13-2010, 04:49 PM
It's been a while since I've updated this. The bumper was really stout in Moab last week. Several times I thought I would hit approaching a ledge on on Poison Spider/Golden Spike/Gold Bar Rim but only touched a couple of times (once on the ledge going up the canyon on Kane Creek - no I didn't take the bypass). The one place I thought I'd struggle was Golden Crack. Clearance wasn't a problem, only the lack of a front locker (and short arm limitations). Here's video of the Golden Crack showing I had plenty of approach angle over the left front tire. Even straight on was ok for almost all situations.
Fortunately, I never had to use the winch.
I'm toiling over the decision to add my fog lights as I'd have to put them further apart which doesn't look as good.

Here's the video:
[IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Mizedog/Jeep%20pics/Moab%202010/th_P1010062.jpg[/IMG"]Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket

rockcrusher
04-26-2010, 10:55 AM
That is a cool video. I hope to make it out there one day.

troys96xj
05-19-2010, 12:48 AM
Looks good man.I have the same bumper but with a winch protector bar I guess you call it .I love it ,it's very stout.Heres some pics of mine.
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz41/Troys96XJ/Winch%20and%20bumper/001.jpg
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz41/Troys96XJ/Winch%20and%20bumper/006-1.jpg
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz41/Troys96XJ/Winch%20and%20bumper/007.jpg
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz41/Troys96XJ/Winch%20and%20bumper/005.jpg
I painted mine to match and the winch also.Trying to be different.Give it some time when you get the winch on and it will come down a little.Mine did so I put 2in spacers in to level it.

mizedog
05-20-2010, 11:36 AM
Nice! I am very happy with my bumper and seem to get questions and complaments on it when ever I'm out on a run - even from non-Cherokee owners. Great value.

Voldemort
05-27-2010, 12:53 AM
I wish I could find someone close that had one of these and would let me do some measurements, I would love to have it but only if I built it. I may have to give one a try on my own. It is just steel is not cheap enough to waste. I could build one out of wood and cardboard first!?!?!?HHHMMMM???

alwaysxj
05-27-2010, 10:44 AM
^^^^ yes card board will do the trick. that is what this guy did and it turned out great.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804387

4.3LXJ
05-27-2010, 11:00 AM
Cardboard rules in the shop

XJoe
01-17-2011, 10:59 AM
I have one of these and get soooo many ? as to where i got them. excellent design and pretty bullet proof so far. Love it!! Great value too

Nicksdsm
01-24-2011, 02:32 PM
Here's My Logan's Bumper :

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd290/nicksdsm/DSC03019.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd290/nicksdsm/DSC03013.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd290/nicksdsm/DSC03012.jpg

4.3LXJ
01-24-2011, 07:04 PM
OOO, that's shiny. Nice lookin bumpa :thumbsup:

Nicksdsm
01-24-2011, 07:24 PM
Thank you. I paid a painter from a local shop $50 for him to prep, prime and paint the bumper. He used extra paint from a recent paint job. I also bought him lunch and a 6 pack.

4.3LXJ
01-24-2011, 07:39 PM
Thank you. I paid a painter from a local shop $50 for him to prep, prime and paint the bumper. He used extra paint from a recent paint job. I also bought him lunch and a 6 pack.

The six pack gets it done every time:smiley-laughing021:

bluedragon436
01-24-2011, 07:46 PM
That bumper looks good... am thinking I will have mine bedlined though, instead of painted...

bigjim350
01-24-2011, 08:09 PM
Thats the bumper im gonna go with. Mine will be mud coated, but there will probably be some paint under that.