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rm2406
09-12-2014, 09:42 AM
hello again all,
have a little problem and need a help. when i start the jeep in the morning or after being parked for a awhile in cold weather if i give it any gas it stumbles or sounds like its choking/bogging down. thats only if i apply gas peddle.. if i start it and just put it in drive and go or dont touch the gas you wont even notice the problem. if it sits in the sun and i start it, it doesnt do it. ONLY COLD starts not hot.. now when i give it gas and it chokes/bogs and i let off the gas it imediatly stops bogging/choking and idles great! give it gas and it bogs/stumbles again. let off and its fine again. this only lasts for maybe 20 seconds. after that it will not do it again til next morning start and all day its fine, idles fine, accelerates fine. due to a different problem this is a list of whats newly replaced recently...
*plugs (champion .35 gap)
*wires
*cap and rotor
*map sensor
*ECT sensor
*IAC valve (cleaned throttle body and iac passage)
*fuel injector cleaning (through rail)
*IAT sensor
*fuel filter
*air filter
*all vacuum hoses
*battery
*o2 sensor (denso brand, accidently dropped before install=problem?)
*oil and filter change
*fuel pressure regulator
after reading a bit im thinking possibly when i dropped the o2 sensor the heater element inside broke. i read its to help get the o2 online faster in the mornings to get a/f ratio regulated. shifts fine cold or hot and has NO other signs of any problems after warmed up 20 sec.
any ideas what might cause this ONLY on cold start for maximum of 20 seconds??

4.3LXJ
09-12-2014, 11:00 AM
Not sure on this. If the O2 heater malfunctions, you should get a check engine light

rm2406
09-12-2014, 11:12 AM
i read about o2 heaters bad turning on cel light and also that OBD1 is not as sensitive to setting a cel light in my case.. but that OBD2 is sensitive to this kinda fault. only thing i know for sure is its a COLD starting issue only....

4.3LXJ
09-12-2014, 02:21 PM
Unless you get a total failure, there is no way for the PCM to measure the O2 for function. All it sees as data. The heaters fail, as in open circuit, then it triggers a light. Since you didn't have this problem before the injector install, I suggest you look there and the coolant temp sensor. If it is not working, the PCM will run it rich like a fresh start up

rm2406
09-13-2014, 08:18 AM
actually i didnt install new injectors i just had them cleaned through a fuel injector cleaning service through the fuel rail. the problem was there before all the parts were changed. ECT is also new. i have no check engine light on, no stored codes. runs great the rest of the day.bunch of new parts... im not sure where else to look??

4.3LXJ
09-13-2014, 10:23 AM
I would still look at the coolant temp sensor, the one by the tstat housing

rm2406
09-13-2014, 11:39 AM
i will test it today to make sure its not a defect part. is there anything else i should test or take a look at? any part i think of as a culprit im reminded that it works through out the drive just not cold and thats what puzzles me...

4.3LXJ
09-13-2014, 03:38 PM
That is why you should look at that CTS. It affects mixture with engine temp