Tis Time For A NSS

[Melissa]

Okay I am really tired of fighting my NSS, so am going to do something about it. Now I am going to take it off and try to clean it, but I was told to have another one available in case mine comes off and comes apart. So my question is..............I found one on ebay, this will fit my 93 automatic correct??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Jeep-XJ-YJ-Cherokee-87-96-Neutral-Safety-Switch_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14Q QhashZitem588336575bQQitemZ380158498651QQptZLHQ5fD efaultDomainQ5f100

[warrpath4x4]

get ahold of this guy, he can get you OEM parts

http://www.links4jeeps.com/forum/index.php?topic=9907.0

[96xj]

also before you take it off you know that you can adjust it right i had the best luck when pushed all the way up just loosen the top bolt and push it up then tighten it up and give it a try its better if you have 2 people 1 in the truck and 1 under adjusting so as you adjust they can try to start it at the sane time

[Melissa]

get ahold of this guy, he can get you OEM parts

http://www.links4jeeps.com/forum/index.php?topic=9907.0

Thanks warrpath, I wrote down Dave's number and plan to give him a shout tomorrow



also before you take it off you know that you can adjust it right i had the best luck when pushed all the way up just loosen the top bolt and push it up then tighten it up and give it a try its better if you have 2 people 1 in the truck and 1 under adjusting so as you adjust they can try to start it at the sane time

I did not know that, I will try adjusting it first and see how it works. :thumbsup:

My NSS only fails sometimes, but it's a major pain when it does. I have found out that when the humidity rises (like it's doing), my NSS fails more often (like most everyday), rather than when the humidity is low, it only fails sometimes (like maybe once a week, or sometimes I can go a month or more with no problems)

Okay, here is another related question. I had reverse lights when I bought my Jeep, but when I started having problems with my NSS (about 2 years ago) I also lost my reverse lights at the same time. Now I know that my reverse lights are connected to the NSS as well, but when my NSS is working, shouldn't my reverse lights be working too??

[Mudderoy]

You are going to have to remove the one you have anyway, try removing it, clean it and put it back in. I don't think it's a part that goes bad, just gets dirty.

I've read an article on how to clean one somewhere once.

[Melissa]

Ummm..............okay..........so........well.... ......now if my NSS is getting dirty, why is the himidity affecting it??

Anyways, my plan is to pull it off ( Kryptonitexj did post a link to cleaning one, and I did print it out ) but if it comes apart in pieces, then I am going to have to put a new one on. This is the reason I have put it off, I'm really afarid it will come come off in pieces, but I really am tired of it craping out on me, last fall when the humidity was pretty high the NSS quite working and my Jeep sat for a good month or more untill the humidity came back down, then it would finally start again, and of course I sort of conveniently forget these things untill they start happening again :shocker:

Here's the link
http://jeepin.com/features/nss/index.asp

So now that they are, I am going to do something about it, before it comes down to having it sit around because the NSS is being a pain in my a$$. :D

[BlueXJ]

If it breaks let me know I have two spare AW-4s and I think both have NSS' on them and I can pull one to send to you.

[COSXJFAN]

OK, BTT, Melissa, I have done the refresh on the NSS, and if you have any questions, please let me know. I'd be glad to help, and it's pretty straight forward!!

[Melissa]

If it breaks let me know I have two spare AW-4s and I think both have NSS' on them and I can pull one to send to you.

Thanks Blue, I'll be sure let you know!!



OK, BTT, Melissa, I have done the refresh on the NSS, and if you have any questions, please let me know. I'd be glad to help, and it's pretty straight forward!!

I'm sure I'll have questions, even with two different sets of directions :smiley-laughing021: I plan on getting to it first thing next week. I have my Diesel in the shop and when it gets home, I'll start on my jeep. This way I'll be sure to have a spare set of wheels when I break my own Jeep :eek::rotfl2:

[Melissa]

Well strike that, I guess I'll be starting on it tomorrow, wait no................ it's after midnight, I mean I'll have to work on it later this morning. I had my Jeep backed out off the pavement so that I could sweep and hose down the driveway, and now it won't start to allow me to get it back where it should be. I used to have a remote starter for it in case something like this happens, but of course I sort of fried the remote starter, so now with it not wanting to start and my diesel in the shop getting calipers, rotors and brakes, I have no choice but to work on it. So on that note, I'll let you all know what happens, wish me luck!!

[COSXJFAN]

Let us know how it goes...

[Melissa]

Ok cosxjfan,

I loosened the top bolt, then pryed down the tabs on the lock washer, and removed the large nut, but the large nut was only finger tight...............good........or not good?

I have yet to actually get the NSS off cause I am having trouble getting to the two friggin zip ties, but I wanted to make sure I asked this question so I know what to do when I get to put it all back on, I do not want to mess this up

[BlueXJ]

As I recall that nut is not very tight or the NSS gets in a bind when it gets mud and debris between it and the housing. A very small set of sidecutters will help to get those tiewraps severed. There is a minimum of space to even get your hand in between the tranny and the tunnel. I have even had to lower the crossmember and slightly lower the tranny for one set of wires and the fastener to be free to give the slack required to slide the NSS off the shaft.
HTH

[Mudderoy]

We need a shot of Mel hanging out the side of her Jeep trying to get to that NSS. I guess I'm just old fashioned, I think seeing a woman struggle working on a vehicle just looks funny. :camera:

[BlueXJ]

We need a shot of Mel hanging out the side of her Jeep trying to get to that NSS. I guess I'm just old fashioned, I think seeing a woman struggle working on a vehicle just looks funny. :camera:

I think is is sexy. I think women can do anything they set their mind to. And that independance is a sexy thing to my mindset.

[COSXJFAN]

Yeah, Blue is right, the large nut needs not be too tight. Be careful with all of the little o-rings, they keep the muck out. Also, there are little tiny springs inside holding the contact wipers against the main distribution contact strips. Be careful, when you separate the unit, they can go bye bye, and I don't think they can be bought anywhere. I took mine apart, and let it soak in citrus degreaser, and everything cleaned up real easy. I assemble it all back with dielectric grease, and it has worked like a champ ever since.

[COSXJFAN]

I think is is sexy. I think women can do anything they set their mind to. And that independance is a sexy thing to my mindset.

I wasn't going to say anything, because I don't know Mel to well...yet!! So, since you brought it up, yeah, it's freakin HOT!! Women that work on their own stuff, and willing to get dirty, calm down boys, I mean oil and grease...oh wait, dang it!! Anyway, I dig it!! LOL!!:stars:

[BlueXJ]

Yep it is one of the most attractive aspects of many women, that they are not afraid to get their hands dirty. Those that are willing to break out of their traditional female roles and do what many have been taught to shun for generations, because it was not "ladylike". That makes them no less of a lady but does elevate them in most mens eyes.

[Mudderoy]

lol I had forgot about this one...

http://curbstoner.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/auto_mechanic.jpg

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/2/16/633703392079757110-sillywoman.jpg

[96xj]

i guess that is as far under as she can go with out popping her boobs

[BlueXJ]

i guess that is as far under as she can go with out popping her boobs

That is what ramps and jacks are for 96!!!!

[96xj]

i know but she dosent have them maybe i can loan her mine:drool:

[Melissa]

You guys are too funny!! :smiley-laughing021::smiley-laughing021:

I will get a shot of me struggling under my jeep, but I can guarntee it won't be sexy :rotfl2: You know though if I get my lift put on, I'd have more room under there to tinker around :rolleyes:

[Mudderoy]

i know but she dosent have them maybe i can loan her mine:drool:

What a bunch of crap. You'd be working on her car, and stopping to check if she needed anything. :D

[96xj]

well sorry if I'm a gentleman :smiley-angelic006:

[COSXJFAN]

OK, I'm calling BULLSPIT!!:boohoo:

[Melissa]

Well, so far so good.................ummm not really, after alot of cussing, using words I never thought would slip out of mouth, this is my progress so far

Start

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0897.jpg

Here you go Muddy, SO SO SO not sexy!!!!!!!!!

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0900.jpg

And finally, I have it out

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0901.jpg

I do have it tore apart and soaking, but I think it is gonna be tomorrow before I get it done, back together, and back on, that thing kicked my butt.

The good news, I pushed the jeep onto the pavement so I was not working in the mud, and I did take a break and went and got my diesel.

The bad news, it took me all darn day, and I have grease and dirt in places we don't need to discuss :eek::smiley-laughing021:

[pvt.Tadpol xj]

Hey MELISSA, wanted to wish all the good fortune on your rebuild of the NSS or your replacement part. I was very lucky to be able to rebuild mine recently. And my back-ups are much brighter now.

[Melissa]

Hey MELISSA, wanted to wish all the good fortune on your rebuild of the NSS or your replacement part. I was very lucky to be able to rebuild mine recently. And my back-ups are much brighter now.

Thanks, I am really looking forward most of all to actually having back up lights again, it's only been a couple years since I've seen them :)

[Mudderoy]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0900.jpg

:wow: I had no idea I had this kind of power! Hmmm what will I wish for next. :rotfl2: :popcorn:

[Melissa]

:wow: I had no idea I had this kind of power! Hmmm what will I wish for next. :rotfl2: :popcorn:

hopefully no more of me fighting my jeep from the underside :rotfl2:

[Voldemort]

Did I miss something in this thread?

[Melissa]

Did I miss something in this thread?

Start on page 2, thats where the entertainment starts :rotfl2::popcorn:

[COSXJFAN]

What can I say, we strayed a little!! LOL!!:smiley-laughing021:

[Melissa]

What can I say, we strayed a little!! LOL!!:smiley-laughing021:


Thats okay, I found it very entertaining :thumbsup:


Here is a pic of the NSS apart, clean and all greased up

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0903.jpg

Here I have it all back to together

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0904.jpg


Well I put it back on, got it plugged back in and my Jeep fired right up
:cheerleader::cheerleader::cheerleader:

BUT.................. While it will fire in park, it will not fire in neutral :(

I checked the other gears and no fire unless in park. I do have one reverse light on the drivers side, I'm thinking I might just need a bulb for the passenger side, shoot it been 2 years since I've had the use of either.

Do you think it's okay this way, or do I need to do something else???
Thoughts?? Suggestions??

[96xj]

you should take it apart again so i can see all the pieces

[Melissa]

you should take it apart again so i can see all the pieces

I figured that was going to be the answer :rotfl2:

Which pieces do you want to see??

Going off of the two sets of directions I had, all the pieces were there and I put everything back the way it came apart, just cleaner :)

I have no problem pulling it back off, should be a alot easier then the first time, I just really don't want to have to crawl my butt back under there :smiley-scared002: :smiley-laughing021:

[96xj]

thank you for being so willing to take it back off but if you have it back on don't worry about it, i guess ill see whats in it when i clean mine :driving:

[Melissa]

I'll do a write up for the tech section, but here are the inside parts pictures for you 96xj

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/pict6252.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0903.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/pict6253.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/pict6255.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/pict6256.jpg

[NickM]

Well, so far so good.................ummm not really, after alot of cussing, using words I never thought would slip out of mouth, this is my progress so far

Start

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0897.jpg

Here you go Muddy, SO SO SO not sexy!!!!!!!!!

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0900.jpg

And finally, I have it out

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0901.jpg

I do have it tore apart and soaking, but I think it is gonna be tomorrow before I get it done, back together, and back on, that thing kicked my butt.

The good news, I pushed the jeep onto the pavement so I was not working in the mud, and I did take a break and went and got my diesel.

The bad news, it took me all darn day, and I have grease and dirt in places we don't need to discuss :eek::smiley-laughing021:

I could stand to hear a little more.

Nick

[96xj]

I'll do a write up for the tech section, but here are the inside parts pictures for you 96xj

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/pict6252.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/HPIM0903.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/pict6253.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/pict6255.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/melreese83/Jeep/pict6256.jpg
your tooo nice thank you so so much you dident have to take it back apart

[Melissa]

I could stand to hear a little more.

Nick


Well..............................I only say that even with all the clothes I had on, I still found grease and dirt in the ol' bra and undies :smiley-scared002:



your tooo nice thank you so so much you dident have to take it back apart

I had to take it back off anyways, I could not get my jeep to fire in neutral, only park. So I took it back off, opened it back up, made sure all the pieces were still there, closed it back up, put it back on, and I'll be dipped if it didn't start in neutral :mel:

[COSXJFAN]

Again, nice job Mel!!:thumbsup:

[Melissa]

Again, nice job Mel!!:thumbsup:

thanks :)

I am happy I was able to do it myself, but the best part that has made me the happiest is the fact that I have reverse lights again :thumbsup:

[COSXJFAN]

Now you can see what you are backing into!! LOL!!

[Melissa]

Now you can see what you are backing into!! LOL!!

Oh so true.............about a year and a half ago I went and pulled a friend out of a snow bank back up on one of the numerouse gravel roads around here, but as I was turning around in the dark to get lined out, I backed right into a sign, cause I just didn't see it :rotfl2:

[Mudderoy]

Wow, you're a hazard to that poor Jeep. :driving: :eek: :stars:

[COSXJFAN]

"Here's your sign":driving: