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muddeprived
05-02-2009, 09:07 AM
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This is a write-up for Detour's Backbone front winch bumper. Enjoy :)

First, of all things, you need to order "da bumper". It's real easy. First make sure you have at least $350 ready. Next you

wanna go to XJ / MJ Backbone Bumper System (http://www.detoursusa.com/xjbackbone.php) and check out some of the pictures. Have a nice big bowl in

front of you to catch the drool. After drying off your mouth, call him up or send him an email saying "i want that damn

bumper!" and he'll bill you, you pay him, he ships it out, etc etc, you own a jeep, you know the drill VERY WELL.

A week or two later, a big brown box will appear on your doorstep. Rip that open and you will find this inside:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5919.jpg


inside that envelope is where the nuts and bolts are hiding...

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There were two white papers included and best thing of the entire package:

A STICKER!

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Now you have everything you need to put this bumper on your.......you do have a cherokee right? I sure hope so. Here's

what we will be installing it on:

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Before we can install it, we hafta paint it. Detours is smart. They send the winch bumper primed but not painted. Most

companies use powerdercoating and it ALWAYS get's damaged through shipping. You can't really touch up

powercoating that well. This bumper comes primed and ready for you to rattle can it or pro-paint it. In my case, i opted

for the most un-common color used on bumpers: black.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5923.jpg

Let's see how much the two cans costs cuz i can't remember...

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5924.jpg

Oh damnit.....(rubbing eyes)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5925.jpg

Ahh there it is. Almost $6. See, not too bad. Cheap paint!

Now it's time to paint the bumper so it's ready to be bolted on.

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Paint it first so it would have time to dry while you are tearing apart your front end monster-garage style.

Ok let's climb under the front and check out what we need to remove or snap in half (argh!!!!)..

muddeprived
05-02-2009, 09:08 AM
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There are two brackets holding the bumper to the fake frame with three bolts per side. In order to remove those bolts,

you will need one of these:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5930.jpg

With a 15mm socket....

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5931.jpg

Stick that cool little tool on the bolts and turn counterclockwise..

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Remove all six bolts. I was curled up in a little ball expecting the bumper to fall on my nuts but that never occured. I

realized that there was something still holding the bumper on. Hmm.....AH HA! Found two pesky little bastard screws

holding the end caps on. they are on in the inside and you can see them by laying down and looking up through the hole

(remove plastic flare flap up and out of the way)...

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They are way up on the inside of the end caps so you need some reach. Take out the extenze pills and blend them with

water. Pour it on your neat little tool that you used to remove the six bumper bolts. This will be the result:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5935.jpg

See, longer is better. Now go through your entire socket set, one by one, and try to find the right size socket. Of course

it's always the last one you pick up and in this case it is size.......

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5936.jpg

umm...can't see.....

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5937.jpg

..damn camera.......ahh screw it, simple:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5939.jpg

It's 8mm. No i didn't get 8mm and 9mm mixed up. I lost 9mm when i first bought this $50 set of sockets. Nice job right?

muddeprived
05-02-2009, 09:09 AM
Back on topic. Remove those two screws on both sides and then the bumper will start to release itself. I was lucky once

again cuz some sort of hose halted the bumper's progress towards earth:

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Someone installed a bomb that apparently did not function correctly and has been collecting dust. There's a hose

coming out of it and i assume it's a vacuum powered bomb. Since my AC and heater don't work this thing has no

chance to explode but I'll keep it in there anyways. Pull that hose out of the bomb....CAREFULLY.....

and ....HOUSTON, WE HAVE TOUCHDOWN!

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Mission accomplished!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5942.jpg

Ok now you have the bumper in YOUR command, let's remove the end caps. They are in the way of measuring if you

decide to keep your factory bumper.

There are two bolts per side, on the bottom:

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You will need your trusty tool you've been using and a socket in the size of....

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oh..here we go again...

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10mm. Yeah, the same size holding the rear end caps on, that i snapped in half.

take that wonderful tool with the socket and remove that bolt...

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5946.jpg


(3 minutes later)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5947.jpg

(7 minutes later)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5948.jpg

Hmm it just keeps spinning without coming out. Let's look underneath..

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5950.jpg

Ahhh no wonder. No biggie though, nothing my grips can't handle..

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5951.jpg

Here's the other bolt near the end..

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Once you get those off, the end cap will pull away from the bumper..

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF5953.jpg

muddeprived
05-02-2009, 09:10 AM
Of course, like the bumper itself, it doesn't come off without a fight. There's another freakin bolt holding it on. What

the....screw it, just tear it...

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Ok that's off and so is the other side. Let's go check out the bumper and see how it's drying..

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Nice :)

Back to the bumper. Mine came with this bling bling low rider flap or whatever it's called. Garbage really. Not need either.

Let's take that off.

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..and throw it away...literally.

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Now comes the time where you have to remove the three steering box bolts. I was expecting to breeze through this with

ease but of course nothing ever goes as planned. I ended up snapping two of the three steering box bolts. They were

rust-welded to the box/spacer. Since I could not get them out of the box, I had to replace the box with a reman:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF6050.jpg

and then order a frame spacer from c-rok:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF6049.jpg

I went with c-rock because it's steel. The oem spacer is made out of alum. or magnesium and it corrodes to metal,

which left me screwed in the first place. The c-rok spacer acts as a brace and replaces the oem spacer. With the c-rok

spacer and detour's bumper, both sides of my frame are reinforced and i have little to worry about tearing the box off our

cardboard frames.

It has been a week and now i'm continuing the install. I installed the steering box and it's ready to go. Let's resume by

removing the nut clips on the end of the frame, that held the bumper on. You remember the six bolts you removed?

These are the nuts for them. Pop them off anyway you please..

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Now it's time to slide the detour's bumper onto the frame but I decided to check the bolt holes first. Good thing I did cuz

look what I found:

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Whoever rebuilt the front end didn't do it perfectly. The bolt holes were blocked 1/2 way by the nutsert for the sway bar

brackets.

Both sides too.....

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I did not panic. I have another trusty tool upstairs that can easily take care of this minor setback:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF6045.jpg

Yeah baby! POWER TOOLS!.....well sorta....

muddeprived
05-02-2009, 09:11 AM
After a bit of dremeling, the holes were clear for insertion:

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Now let's take the bumper and slide it on the frame, inserting one bolt per side to hold it in place.

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After it's reunited with the jeep, insert two more bolts on the passenger side, and the three steering box bolts on the

driver's side.

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Let's start off by tightening the bolts closest to you, near the front:

I chose to use some anti-sieze on the threads. It'll save my arse later on.

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Now we need to pour some more extenze drink on the trusty tool to get it long again and stick a socket on it.

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This is what size you need and i'm not bothering taking another picture of the socket...

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Tighten clockwise..

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After getting those two bolts on both sides, move onto the passenger side two rear bolts. You will need the same tool

again, and i found out it's called a socket wrench, or rachet. I still call it my trusty tool.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF6057.jpg

and of course, the size socket you need...

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muddeprived
05-02-2009, 09:11 AM
This bolt has those tricky nuts on the other side that fooled us earlier. We will need the same size open end wrench to

overcome troublemaker..

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Tighten them up and now it's the steering box bolts. You will need this size:

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I had to install my c-roke brace and steering box, and you will be doing pretty much the same thing with your box and

spacer..

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Again, tighten the steering box bolts clockwise and TIGHT. I dunno the factory torque specs on these bolts, nor do I

care. I just put them super freakin tight with some blue locktight. They aren't going anywhere. :)

Now we are pretty much done but before we sit back and check out the new winch bumper, let's see what the scorecard

is showing:

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Yup, the bumper won 6-0. That's how many times i struck my head on the newly extended winch bumper that just

happens to extend right over your head (if your jeep is high enough). It hurt.....bad.

After retreiving an ice pack from the freezer, we can now stand back and check out our new accessory added to our

jeep:

A paper towel holder:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF6061.jpg

the only one on the market today.


This project is not completed yet. You are only half done. Now you have to decide whether you wanna re-use your factory bumper or modify an aftermarket bumper to fit on it. I chose to go with my factory bumper cuz i'm cheap. :)

I was gonna give you a write-up on how to cut it but my gf was a little ticked seeing her camera covered in grease and dirt from my hands during the installation of the paper towel holder. "It happens" i told her but that ended up with no camera to use. I did manage to sneak a few completed shots. Don't tell her please...shh!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF6062.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF6063.jpg

You can see the big gap below the bumper from when we threw away that center piece. I am in the process of cutting the end caps to shorter so they line up with that center section. It'll give me more ground clearance too.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF6064.jpg

How far it sticks out and what my head battled against...

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/detours/DSCF6065.jpg


Well, that's that. I hope this helps enough to prevent you guys from installing the bumper upside down or something.

Mudderoy
05-02-2009, 09:22 AM
Hilarious! Taking all those pictures makes the work last twice as long, so many thanks for doing it. :D

muddeprived
05-02-2009, 09:27 AM
Hilarious! Taking all those pictures makes the work last twice as long, so many thanks for doing it. :D

Tell me about it. Thanks ;)

firehawk
05-02-2009, 09:48 AM
Deprived does the BEST write ups!:D Comical, but complete. That is what I missed on CT while you were 'gone". Looks nice.

BTW, the WTF you ran into.....my 2000 was the same. Apparently Jeep put some sort of "plate" to reinforce the swaybar mounts inside the frame. I guess they didn't care if it covered up half the hole.:confused:

BTW2...where's the winch?:confused:

BlueXJ
05-02-2009, 09:53 AM
One of the best writeups of all time. Informative and hilarious at the same time. Going out for some extenze right now. Can you do a writeup on that mixing procedure too!!

muddeprived
05-02-2009, 10:05 AM
Deprived does the BEST write ups!:D Comical, but complete. That is what I missed on CT while you were 'gone". Looks nice.

BTW, the WTF you ran into.....my 2000 was the same. Apparently Jeep put some sort of "plate" to reinforce the swaybar mounts inside the frame. I guess they didn't care if it covered up half the hole.:confused:

BTW2...where's the winch?:confused:

Oh I guess it came from the factory that way. weird.

Winch? What for? It holds paper towels. :headshake:


:) There's SUPPOSED to be a winch on there but the damn gear box failed on me so i had to spend $$ elsewhere. I'll get one on there soon.

muddeprived
05-02-2009, 10:06 AM
One of the best writeups of all time. Informative and hilarious at the same time. Going out for some extenze right now. Can you do a writeup on that mixing procedure too!!

Just drop 3 pills in 1 oz of water and blend. Drink half of it and leave the other half for the tool. Careful with the 'reaction'.

Mudderoy
05-02-2009, 10:20 AM
Deprived does the BEST write ups!:D Comical, but complete. That is what I missed on CT while you were 'gone". Looks nice.

BTW, the WTF you ran into.....my 2000 was the same. Apparently Jeep put some sort of "plate" to reinforce the swaybar mounts inside the frame. I guess they didn't care if it covered up half the hole.:confused:

BTW2...where's the winch?:confused:

Same here. I had to drill it out asswell.

firehawk
05-02-2009, 10:20 AM
Just drop 3 pills in 1 oz of water and blend. Drink half of it and leave the other half for the tool. Careful with the 'reaction'.

The half you drink... is that to help raise up the parts you're putting on the Jeep?:D You do know if "it" lasts more than four hours to seek medical attention don't you?:smiley-scared002: SWING!!!

Mudderoy
05-02-2009, 10:21 AM
One of the best writeups of all time. Informative and hilarious at the same time. Going out for some extenze right now. Can you do a writeup on that mixing procedure too!!

Only if there is a super model involved.


ahhh female super model.

muddeprived
05-02-2009, 10:22 AM
The half you drink... is that to help raise up the parts you're putting on the Jeep?:D You do know if "it" lasts more than four hours to seek medical attention don't you?:smiley-scared002: SWING!!!

Ahh..so that's what mysteriously raised the bumper for me. I thought someone was behind me lending me a hand.....

BlueXJ
05-02-2009, 10:41 AM
That was not a HAND.

firehawk
05-02-2009, 10:46 AM
That was not a HAND.


:smiley-scared002::smiley-scared002::smiley-scared002:

Mudderoy
05-02-2009, 12:34 PM
Yep, some black eyes you just don't want to talk about. :smiley-laughing021:

Melissa
05-02-2009, 11:12 PM
:lmao:

That was an awesome write up, informative, and entertaining.

:thanx:

Primo
08-03-2009, 11:05 PM
Awsome write up man please post some pics when you get the winch on.

Looks real good I think Im sold !!!! SO CLEAN!!! perfect I love it .:thumbsup:

Mudderoy
08-04-2009, 12:21 AM
Yep Mark makes great stuff. I have his slimline rear bumper with tire carrier and a custom front winch bumper he built. It was a hard decision since he has a backbone and tailbone now that lets you keep that factory look, but have the recovery points, a tire carrier and a winch.

If/when I build another XJ I'm going with the back and tail bones.

muddeprived
08-04-2009, 08:00 AM
Awsome write up man please post some pics when you get the winch on.

Looks real good I think Im sold !!!! SO CLEAN!!! perfect I love it .:thumbsup:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/LTB/DSCF6401.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/muddeprived/cherokee/LTB/DSCF6391.jpg

DETOURS
08-04-2009, 01:03 PM
Nice work. :cool:

muddeprived
08-04-2009, 02:41 PM
Nice work. :cool:

No...nice work that YOU did. ;)


Thanks again ;)

Primo
08-05-2009, 11:45 PM
HOLY CRAP it looks so FN good I love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im doing it soon as I get the flo
wow did I mention WOW!!!
Nice install thred and super nice part!!!
I have always wanted to figure out how to get this kind of super clean look. A freakin plus man!!!!

P.S. WOW:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbs up:





WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DETOURS
08-09-2009, 03:54 PM
Thanks for the kind words, the BackBone has been on the market for about 7 years now, also available for KJ's.....:cool:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/Liberty/Lettergood2.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/Liberty/ShowLetterflex.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/Liberty/crzykj.jpg

:rolleyes:

Primo
08-09-2009, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the kind words, the BackBone has been on the market for about 7 years now, also available for KJ's.

Well Im glad I finaly found it and this forum.

Mudderoy
08-09-2009, 08:14 PM
Well Im glad I finaly found it and this forum.

Spanky builds really nice stuff, but he hides his light under a bush, and it's not what you think. :rotfl2:

DETOURS
08-10-2009, 12:10 PM
I hide my 'light...............under a bush...............huh, well if this came up in conversation at some point, I dont recall..........but on a positive note, it's sometimes a good idea to inspect a bush under proper light. ;)

Mudderoy
08-10-2009, 12:55 PM
Hmmm not sure. Well I think I told you that I found out about your products from doing an online search, google I think. I had looked at many rear bumpers with tire carriers before I found your site. I bet it was close to a year before I ordered the bumper.

The other bumpers I was looking at are easy to find in catalog, so I'm just saying that your work is nice, but hard to find out about.

muddeprived
08-10-2009, 01:33 PM
Hmmm not sure. Well I think I told you that I found out about your products from doing an online search, google I think. I had looked at many rear bumpers with tire carriers before I found your site. I bet it was close to a year before I ordered the bumper.

The other bumpers I was looking at are easy to find in catalog, so I'm just saying that your work is nice, but hard to find out about.

He'll become a well-known fabber soon I bet. People are talking about the backbone and stuff on most of the jeepforums I'm a member of. It's just a matter of time before his products end up in magazines and being reviewed by Peterson's or JP. ;)

Primo
08-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Dude spanky holy isht Your part's are awsome!!! I just checked out the sight those sliders are awsome and the tailbone WOW your my new hero, screw superman! oh yeah the prices. . . . . . . THE PRICES ARE PHENOMINAL!!!!!!!!!!

Dirt Dogg Rydas
08-10-2009, 02:29 PM
He'll become a well-known fabber soon I bet. People are talking about the backbone and stuff on most of the jeepforums I'm a member of. It's just a matter of time before his products end up in magazines and being reviewed by Peterson's or JP. ;)

I'm doing my part to help out.
I got my shock relocators thursday
and put the supplied decal on my cherokee


BTW:
Thanks Spanky!
I like the color

Mudderoy
08-10-2009, 02:48 PM
I'm doing my part to help out.
I got my shock relocators thursday
and put the supplied decal on my cherokee


BTW:
Thanks Spanky!
I like the color

Can I get a picture with you and the prize? If you can rig them up as earrings that would be great. :rotfl2:

DETOURS
08-10-2009, 05:01 PM
He'll become a well-known fabber soon I bet. People are talking about the backbone and stuff on most of the jeepforums I'm a member of. It's just a matter of time before his products end up in magazines and being reviewed by Peterson's or JP. ;)


Been at this for 7 years, magazines...done that....been there, dont get me going.....:thumbdown:

Forums & happy customers keep me going almost 7 days a week, and somehow.......Detours pulls in the BEST customers out there, it's really a pleasure doing business with the crowd our products attract, and I aint just saying that either.....it's very true!!


"Dude spanky holy isht Your part's are awsome!!! I just checked out the sight those sliders are awsome and the tailbone WOW your my new hero, screw superman! oh yeah the prices. . . . . . . THE PRICES ARE PHENOMINAL!!!!!!!!!!"

On a side note, we have not increased pricing in years........this will need to change soon, nothing major but it will need to happen.......:cop:

DETOURS
08-10-2009, 05:04 PM
I'm doing my part to help out.
I got my shock relocators thursday
and put the supplied decal on my cherokee


BTW:
Thanks Spanky!
I like the color

Hey thats great!!

muddeprived
08-10-2009, 05:58 PM
Been at this for 7 years, magazines...done that....been there, dont get me going.....:thumbdown:

Forums & happy customers keep me going almost 7 days a week, and somehow.......Detours pulls in the BEST customers out there, it's really a pleasure doing business with the crowd our products attract, and I aint just saying that either.....it's very true!!


"Dude spanky holy isht Your part's are awsome!!! I just checked out the sight those sliders are awsome and the tailbone WOW your my new hero, screw superman! oh yeah the prices. . . . . . . THE PRICES ARE PHENOMINAL!!!!!!!!!!"

On a side note, we have not increased pricing in years........this will need to change soon, nothing major but it will need to happen.......:cop:

Which magazines reviewed your products?

Primo
08-10-2009, 07:04 PM
Been at this for 7 years, magazines...done that....been there, dont get me going.....:thumbdown:

Forums & happy customers keep me going almost 7 days a week, and somehow.......Detours pulls in the BEST customers out there, it's really a pleasure doing business with the crowd our products attract, and I aint just saying that either.....it's very true!!


"Dude spanky holy isht Your part's are awsome!!! I just checked out the sight those sliders are awsome and the tailbone WOW your my new hero, screw superman! oh yeah the prices. . . . . . . THE PRICES ARE PHENOMINAL!!!!!!!!!!"

On a side note, we have not increased pricing in years........this will need to change soon, nothing major but it will need to happen.......:cop:

Hey with prices this low and the mind blowing innovative parts that you make you owe yourself a raise!!! I just have one request so here it is . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please please please Make a roof rack !!!! One with a gutter mount option and a protective lower tube for rubbing up against trees when your on tilt, oh and don't forget to blow our minds with the innovative things you do, please!!!!!:D

N1TZU
08-10-2009, 08:16 PM
Hello Mark, And to all out in XJT land.Over the past few months I completely modded my jeep with the fine addition of Spanky's Tailbone and Backbone systems[pics in rig pictures thread]And I'm very very pleased with his down to earth personality-professional business ethics-fabrication of the products,Both units were a breeze to install.....If there are any questions out there don't hesitate to PM me.......N1TZU.........Bob........Maine...........

DETOURS
08-10-2009, 08:58 PM
Thanks Bob, I wish I could visit some folk in Maine, I miss it and if it ever happens soon, I'll give you a heads up cuzz I'd love to twist some HVAC wrenches with ya.........maybe even learn abit about Geothermal......I promise to behave!!

DETOURS
08-10-2009, 09:18 PM
Which magazines reviewed your products?


Hmmmmmmmmmm........this could become a very, long.......reply.
Rather.......
I will just state.......

There is a "VERY" large turnover in sales executives in the magazine business, "sales executive" is just a fancy term for average 'Joe' trying to make a name for themselves in the business "SLYMING" parts off advertising vendors with BIG PROMISES of Tech articals and such......I aint gonna name names, or mag's......but anything published under Primedia is beyond suspect, their turn over is criminal..........although a few names within JP still stand even today..........I WISH I had the advertising cash they pulled out of POISON SPIDER which is now DEFUNKED....

I can name no less than 4 magazines I was involved with, bottom line is 3 no longer exist.........and I'm not going to totally bash the other 2.......(make that '5' publications)

Happy Trails!! :cool:


EDIT 8/12/09: I realize this all sounds pretty harsh, and it should..........But without going into detail over numerous dealings with this industry,
I know it's hard for many to understand........I've also had dealings with some tv producers who produce shows for SPEED channel wanting to
'showcase' product and such.....I got a real good laugh out of that,.........after 5-6 hours on the phone over a 2 week period with these people, I
finally suggested we should pass the papers to see what they had for a proposal......(I knew this was coming---->) Not only was I being asked to
ship free product on my tab, they wanted $11,250.00 for 6 minutes of "air-time" on the show (2 minutes on the 1st showing......then 3 reruns of the
origanol 1st showing)............I called him back after getting the proposal via email.......and proceeded to laugh him off the phone, told him if I was
going to throw 11k at anything....it would be equipment, not his TV show, told him he had the wrong guy......loose my number, have a nice day........

Anywhooo........The magazine world is slightly different, but not a whole lot......atleast from my experiances........dont get me wrong, they're ok to
read....I buy and read them myself........but being on the otherside of it.......not so great.

N1TZU
08-12-2009, 08:33 PM
Hey Mark,If you do ever get a chance to happen up this way definitely call me ahead.That will give me a chance to reset my schedule so we go out and do some wheeling-fishing-cookout-or what ever your interested in doing.That would be cool..........Bob............

DETOURS
08-12-2009, 09:12 PM
Hey Mark,If you do ever get a chance to happen up this way definitely call me ahead.That will give me a chance to reset my schedule so we go out and do some wheeling-fishing-cookout-or what ever your interested in doing.That would be cool..........Bob............

Thanks Bob, I'll definitely get a hold of you, I think as far North I'll get this year is CT, but I'd like to try to get back up to Maine at some point if at all possible next year......"do some wheeling-fishing-cookout-or what ever"......all good with me unless the black flies are out!!! ;)

lowrider
11-05-2009, 08:42 PM
good job
you want to come do mine when i get the money to buy it

modestmar00xj
11-24-2010, 10:10 PM
haha awesome work! i just found out about this Detours company and i like some of there stuff! i want to get there rear tire carrier!

Rayburne
01-06-2013, 09:10 PM
Like reading a great book with pictures, great job. My winch bumper should arrive this week in the mail so should I order the extenz now to be up for the job.