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EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 08:19 AM
Alrighty so over the holiday I ended up buying a Wagoneer, I plan on making it my DD and tow rig(she will be wheeled but nothing too crazy, dont really want to mess her up).

Here's the specs on her:
1980 Wagoneer Limited(she was a "woody" but the guy before the guy I bought it from didnt like it so tore the wood look off and painted her white)
4x4 ofcourse
Approximately 123k miles on her
360 V8
727 Tranny, NP219 Tcase
The interior is in really good condition, only a few tears in the front seats, nothing too bad.
All lights and guages work
Power everything(seats, locks, windows)
D44 front, AMC 20 rear(the rear will have to go)

She runs and drives, fires up on the first try :)

...did I mention that I only bought her for $900

She needs some work but nothing major, heres what I plan on doing with her:
Swap the AMC 20 for a D44
Locker up front(if she doesnt already have one)
Gears...thinking 3.73 or 4.10s...she wont be a wheeling rig, mostly a pavement pounder so nothing too crazy
Tires and wheels(taking the tires off my XJ for now, finding or buying new wheels)
Has a tranny leak but its just the front seal, so will replace that
I do plan on lifting her, probably going to do a spring over/shackle flip to lift her about 7"


This is just a start, I'll most likely keep adding to it but for now this is the plan.



As for my XJ,...I just cant bring myself to get rid of her so I'll keep her and make her my strict offroad vehicle.
I have a few ideas floating around but nothing that wants to stick but I wont be starting on her for a while.

Ill keep you all posted as to what Ive done and what im adding to the list,...the endless list lol


And ofcourse, here are some pics of the new addition
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/2012-12-22_15-37-51_141.jpg
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/3Fa3pb3He5L15H15Macb3973895be1880192d.jpg
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/3Kc3Ja3Ne5Gc5Fa5H2cb3932fc97e6ac31c8f.jpg
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/3E23La3N15Ge5Ef5Hecb450dd777895c71cee.jpg
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/3Ff3Ld3I95N25L65F5cb32c129940db7f10af.jpg
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/3I73o13Nc5G65Fc5H9cb351761bc85e791451.jpg

And my poor XJ being hauled back home, atleast she'll look good being a trailer queen ;)

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/2012-12-23_10-50-49_734.jpg

prcjeep
12-26-2012, 08:33 AM
NICE find!... I picked up a Wagioneer last....Summer? Its was free but needs a LOT of work.

Yours looks liek it already has a small lift on it. Looking forward to seeing your progress!

EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 08:37 AM
NICE find!... I picked up a Wagioneer last....Summer? Its was free but needs a LOT of work.

Yours looks liek it already has a small lift on it. Looking forward to seeing your progress!

Yeah has a small 3" body lift on it now with 32" tires(cracked but still holds air)

I cant wait to get her out on the street, shouldnt be too long...hopefully by the first week of January she'll be up and running :)

4x4Dalton
12-26-2012, 09:08 AM
Sweet. Ya got a good deal with that one Amber. Now ya got a tow rig to bring yer XJ on down to Texas next yr :D


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EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 09:09 AM
Sweet. Ya got a good deal with that one Amber. Now ya got a tow rig to bring yer XJ on down to Texas next yr :D


Sent from my bulletproof iPhone using the Flapmyjaws app :)

Remember, you all are coming to me! :)

4.3LXJ
12-26-2012, 11:12 AM
Nice find Amber. If you trim fenders, you can, believe it or not, trim enough to run 44s without a lift. If you do a spring over, plan on a high steer to clear the drag link

EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 11:15 AM
Nice find Amber. If you trim fenders, you can, believe it or not, trim enough to run 44s without a lift. If you do a spring over, plan on a high steer to clear the drag link

Not planning on cutting into the body on this one lol. Alright, I'll look into the high steer.

And thanks,...got pretty lucky, talked the guy down from $1500

bluedragon436
12-26-2012, 11:16 AM
That is a nice Wagoneer you got there... I would love to find a Wagoneer or J series truck to build up a little bit.. for DD and some trail play!! Can't wait to see this one progress!!

4.3LXJ
12-26-2012, 11:16 AM
Good job. Did you dress sexy or what? I think you will also find the rear is already SPOA. Blocks or bastard pack or both will be in order

EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 11:18 AM
Good job. Did you dress sexy or what? I think you will also find the rear is already SPOA. Blocks or bastard pack or both will be in order

Lol, I just used my natural charm :D

Already has blocks in the rear...and SPOA? drawing a blank lol

Another addition to the list,...locking hubs

4.3LXJ
12-26-2012, 11:20 AM
SPOA is spring over axle. If you had a little bitty Samurai, you would know that foreign language. :D

EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 11:21 AM
That is a nice Wagoneer you got there... I would love to find a Wagoneer or J series truck to build up a little bit.. for DD and some trail play!! Can't wait to see this one progress!!


Thanks blue :) A wagoneer was on my "dream truck" list so im pretty happy....now all I need is the j10, j20, and a scout

4.3LXJ
12-26-2012, 11:22 AM
Ambers museum of Jeep history :D

EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 11:23 AM
SPOA is spring over axle. If you had a little bitty Samurai, you would know that foreign language. :D

Had a feeling thats what you mean, just making sure.

Bj's offroad offers a Spring over(front) and shackle flip kit(rear) that i may look into

bluedragon436
12-26-2012, 11:25 AM
BJ's is definately the most awesome resource for the FSJ builds... I've been looking at them since I saw my first J series truck that I wanted to purchase...

EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 11:25 AM
Ambers museum of Jeep history :D

I like that,...thatll be my excuse for buying another jeep...."but hun I need to add to my museum"

4.3LXJ
12-26-2012, 11:25 AM
While your at it, since it is a tow rig, find some 401 heads for it and wake up that big V8 under there

4.3LXJ
12-26-2012, 11:26 AM
I like that,...thatll be my excuse for buying another jeep...."but hun I need to add to my museum"

You can call it the Museum of Forgotten History. There is one not far from me too. You can have the AZ version

EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 11:26 AM
BJ's is definately the most awesome resource for the FSJ builds... I've been looking at them since I saw my first J series truck that I wanted to purchase...

Yeah, I'll definately be ordering off BJ's for some, if not most of my parts

EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 11:29 AM
While your at it, since it is a tow rig, find some 401 heads for it and wake up that big V8 under there

Its a big cluster f*ck under there, im going to clean her all up and get rid of some of the vacuum lines(we dont need a spider web of vacuum lines to pass emissions in AZ)...make her shine :)


You can call it the Museum of Forgotten History. There is one not far from me too. You can have the AZ version

Love it,...I'll start my very own :D

4.3LXJ
12-26-2012, 11:31 AM
If you get rid of those vacuum lines do yourself a favor and git a different carb that doesn't use them. You will thank yourself later for that.

EekGirl96
12-26-2012, 11:35 AM
If you get rid of those vacuum lines do yourself a favor and git a different carb that doesn't use them. You will thank yourself later for that.

Alright, thanks...I'll look into that and do more research lol

bluedragon436
01-21-2013, 04:34 PM
Just found an 89 Wagoneer last night.. going to try and get ahold of the seller tomorrow. It says it has a newly rebuilt trans, and a few other things.. Said he got it started and it ran for a min or two, then died and he can't get it to start again.. So got to look into doing some research on that and decide if I want to take on that task of figuring that out or not... Think if I could pick it up and get it running fairly quickly I'd def love to build that thing up and get it looking like I'd like.. I love the FSJ's so much... especially with the 360 power!! So I def. look forward to seeing where you take your Waggy too!!

EekGirl96
01-21-2013, 08:25 PM
Thatll be sweet, hopefully youll get it.....I plan on having my wagoneer done, well close to being done as soon as I get my tax money lol

EekGirl96
02-25-2013, 09:11 AM
Alrighty guys so my tax return should be coming in any day now. I planned on using most, if not all of it on my Wagoneer(yes Im still kinda debating if I'd rather have a sandrail or fix up my Wagoneer....woe is me)....lift kit and tires mostly(used, craigslist tires). Im at a stand still as to what size and type of lift kit to use, I have two in mind(one thanks to bluedragon). I dont plan on removing the body lift on it so that will give me an extra 2" of lift.

Here are the two kits im debating on:
http://www.bjsoffroad.com/prod-844.htm
That would put me at approximately a 9" lift

or

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-suspension/jeep-suspension-lift-kits/fs-full-size-74-91-jeep-suspension-lift-kits/rustys-fsj-3-5-4-full-size-spring-pack-lift-kit.html
That would put me at approximately a 6" lift

my other debate is should I go with 33x12.50x15" tires or 35x12.50x15" tires.

I do not plan to full on wheel my Wagoneer, she'll more likely be a "show" rig who every once in a while will go offroad(that may change after awhile lol)...and ofcourse will be a part-time DD.

So im looking for opinions from all you guys, since...well...im at a stand still lol.

What do you guys think?!

4x4Dalton
02-25-2013, 12:21 PM
I would go with the Rusty's 4"

EekGirl96
02-25-2013, 12:22 PM
I would go with the Rusty's 4"

And why do you say that?

4x4Dalton
02-25-2013, 12:22 PM
Since you don't want to go full offroad with it and be a sometime DD. lift it that much and concentrate on yer offroad one for height and play toy status :D

EekGirl96
02-25-2013, 12:24 PM
Since you don't want to go full offroad with it and be a sometime DD. lift it that much and concentrate on yer offroad one for height and play toy status :D

:( you mustve missed the memo...I ended up getting rid of my XJ....:nuke:

4x4Dalton
02-25-2013, 12:28 PM
Well crap. I'd still only go with the 4" lift. Cause once you finish and go with say the 35's you will be sittin close to 8-9" then.

EekGirl96
02-25-2013, 01:14 PM
Well crap. I'd still only go with the 4" lift. Cause once you finish and go with say the 35's you will be sittin close to 8-9" then.

They say bigger is better but idk if thatll apply to an offroad and DD rig lol

The only fall back I have on the Rustys kit is that the leafs sit under the axle...

bluedragon436
02-25-2013, 01:17 PM
You know you want to lift it, and run some 35's already!! LOL... Oh wait, that's what I'd want to do if I had the Waggy!!

EekGirl96
02-25-2013, 01:23 PM
You know you want to lift it, and run some 35's already!! LOL... Oh wait, that's what I'd want to do if I had the Waggy!!

I want to and I would be totally 100% but one day the curiosity got the better of me and I was able to find some cheap, street legal and running sandrails on my locals....:bang:

When are you going to look at the Wagoneer blue?!?

4.3LXJ
02-25-2013, 08:55 PM
Bear is right, go with Rusty's oir one like it. The full spring is the way to go for drivability issues.

EekGirl96
02-26-2013, 07:43 AM
Bear is right, go with Rusty's oir one like it. The full spring is the way to go for drivability issues.

Yeah, but like I said before....not a fan of the leafs sitting under the axle...

4.3LXJ
02-26-2013, 10:40 AM
Yeah, but like I said before....not a fan of the leafs sitting under the axle...

True, but if you do an SPOA, you will have a drag link in the leaf spring trick. I did a lift on one back in the day and would have done what you want and didn't due to lack of steering solutions at that time. The rear should already be over the axle IIRC.

EekGirl96
02-26-2013, 10:44 AM
True, but if you do an SPOA, you will have a drag link in the leaf spring trick. I did a lift on one back in the day and would have done what you want and didn't due to lack of steering solutions at that time. The rear should already be over the axle IIRC.

I know it says on the BJ's site that a crossover steering is required for the lift kit, which means more $$

4.3LXJ
02-26-2013, 10:47 AM
Yes, that is why. So you would have to come up with a Reid racing knuckle or something similar and new drag link and tie rod. Spring under is what Jeep did since they started making them. They felt it was stronger and kept the center of gravity down, just the opposite of the way we do things today. Chevy K series was the first decent spring over.

EekGirl96
02-26-2013, 10:50 AM
Yes, that is why. So you would have to come up with a Reid racing knuckle or something similar and new drag link and tie rod. Spring under is what Jeep did since they started making them. They felt it was stronger and kept the center of gravity down, just the opposite of the way we do things today. Chevy K series was the first decent spring over.

Means more things to consider...thanks Steve for your input :)

EekGirl96
02-25-2014, 12:14 PM
So decided to revive this thread since I am now trying to get the ball rolling on my waggy build

(seeing the picture of my XJ and the "plans" I had for her makes me sad...doesnt help that a sad song just happened to be playing as I was reading all this :()

So, its going to be a slow, long build since I dont have the funds at this time to splurge like I would like to, so I will buy things as money allows. I wont be installing anything until I have everything I need and want for her (I think, knowing me my excitement will get the best of me and I will start installing lol)

Heres my parts/build list:
(hoping that some of my fellow jeepers will know of a cheaper place to get some stuff,...you know, gotta save every penny)

I already have a ford 9' rear end that I plan on putting in her (was going to go in my bronco 2) as well as 5.13 gears and a spool (debating on if I want to use the spool or not)

-Front gears (5.13s) -$155
-Install kit- $90
Front Aussie locker -$250
Riddler diff cover (for the d44)-$110
Spring over/shackle flip lift (yes I am still going with this)-$305
Cross-over steering-$550
Front pre-runner style bumper-$575
Rear pre-runner style bumper-$360
Rock sliders-$250
33's (may do 35's depending on if I keep the 3" lift on her and add the other lift) KM2's ofcourse-$242 a piece
Pro-comp steel wheels-$85 a piece
New tranny-$700

and then other misc stuff that I will need

I plan on buy most of my stuff from BJ's

I believe that itll be approximately $5500 to get her up and running the way I want her to (give or take)

Plans are still the same, not going to hardcore wheel her like my XJ, she'll go out and be more for "show" than anything, dont really want to mess her up.

any input is fine

bluedragon436
02-25-2014, 12:22 PM
Glad to see that your love and plans for the Waggy are renewed!! I know my harassing and :poke::poke: you about it would eventually pay off, JK JK... But seriously... glad to see the love renewed for her... Can't wait to see the build up pics to follow, when you get tired of seeing the parts, and wanting to see her progress!!!

EekGirl96
02-25-2014, 12:27 PM
Glad to see that your love and plans for the Waggy are renewed!! I know my harassing and :poke::poke: you about it would eventually pay off, JK JK... But seriously... glad to see the love renewed for her... Can't wait to see the build up pics to follow, when you get tired of seeing the parts, and wanting to see her progress!!!

Lol, yes your endless harassment has finally paid off blue

I already know that I will start installing parts on her before she's up and ready to go.....if I had $700 I wouldve already had the tranny done

bluedragon436
02-25-2014, 12:36 PM
Glad that I could be of help Amber.... Now I just have to keep it up at the right times, to keep the Waggy build going strong!!! :poke: :poke:

EekGirl96
02-25-2014, 12:40 PM
Glad that I could be of help Amber.... Now I just have to keep it up at the right times, to keep the Waggy build going strong!!! :poke: :poke:

Ask me every couple of weeks if I bought anything for her (I get paid every other week lol) or if I've saved money

I plan on saving money if I cant buy something out right


its going to go by soooo slow,..wish I had money coming back to me from taxes, wouldve helped out alot :(

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/IMG_20130503_163314_254_zpsc1d3365d.jpg (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/AGarcia89/media/IMG_20130503_163314_254_zpsc1d3365d.jpg.html)

4.3LXJ
02-25-2014, 12:53 PM
So is it done yet?

EekGirl96
02-25-2014, 12:54 PM
Ha no, I wish

4.3LXJ
02-25-2014, 12:55 PM
Strange, mine isn't done either

EekGirl96
02-25-2014, 12:58 PM
Sounds like a horrible epidemic

4.3LXJ
02-25-2014, 12:59 PM
Yup, very contagious

XJ Wheeler
02-26-2014, 01:40 AM
Ya know, i don't think I've ever heard on one being "done". There must be a vaccine or antidote for this.

:D

Sent via messenger pigeon - i talk, he types.

EekGirl96
02-26-2014, 07:53 AM
Ya know, i don't think I've ever heard on one being "done". There must be a vaccine or antidote for this.

:D

Sent via messenger pigeon - i talk, he types.

There probably is, the higher ups just dont want us to find/have it.....theyd be out of business if we got our hands on it

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 10:28 AM
Well just a minor update.

Since I have a weirdly strong feeling that this is mostly going to be my project, meaning that my hubby will have no involvement in the waggy (ie: helping me build and install parts) I sent my "build sheet/list" to one of my XJ buddies who has his own shop to get an estimate of what it would cost for all the parts (thru him) and to have everything installed. I am waiting for a response (sent it yesterday, told him no rush) but if he throws me back a price thats more than what I priced out then I am just going to do everything myself....sounds fun and challenging just wished I had more time to do it if it ends up being that way.

I'll post his prices when I get them to see if you guys agree if its reasonable or not.

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 10:49 AM
Ah Amber, you need to live by me. You could bring it by the shop and we could make it a group effort. JeepFreak is coming by today to get a little help with his lights. Of course I will have him help me move a gutted WJ out to make room for the TJ

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 10:52 AM
Ah Amber, you need to live by me. You could bring it by the shop and we could make it a group effort. JeepFreak is coming by today to get a little help with his lights. Of course I will have him help me move a gutted WJ out to make room for the TJ

Well when I get all the parts I'll tow her and make the 12+ hour drive to you and we can install it :)

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 10:55 AM
Bring it on. Make it a weekend when my sone is here and we can round up another one or two and then stand back

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 10:57 AM
Bring it on. Make it a weekend when my sone is here and we can round up another one or two and then stand back

Sounds good, I'll bring the beer!

A weekend?! Thats it?

bluedragon436
03-05-2014, 11:01 AM
A weekend with no sleep or breaks!!! LOL... Look forward to seeing his pricing reply, I can imagine parts wise should be a bit cheaper through a shop (at least if they are willing to give you the at cost pricing)... but you might end up spending that difference and a bit more for the labor part, so his pricing might be a little bit higher.... Look forward to seeing the progress of the Waggy build none the less!!

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 11:01 AM
No beer in the shop, that is like wheeling. It is for afterwards

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 11:03 AM
A weekend could do it with enough help. What all you going to do?

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 11:06 AM
I didnt mean in shop, afterwards ofcourse.

And everything I listed is what I plan on installing, getting the parts first then slapping them all on at once

Steve...do you not read the thread?! ;)

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 11:08 AM
Short memory. Besides, you might have changed your mind

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 11:08 AM
A weekend with no sleep or breaks!!! LOL... Look forward to seeing his pricing reply, I can imagine parts wise should be a bit cheaper through a shop (at least if they are willing to give you the at cost pricing)... but you might end up spending that difference and a bit more for the labor part, so his pricing might be a little bit higher.... Look forward to seeing the progress of the Waggy build none the less!!

Yeah, im hoping the parts will be cheaper and that the labor wont be costly. He builds custom XJ's to people's liking (buys and build them) he just built (and bought) a pretty nice looking xj for $3000 and that included the xj, lift, tires, etc I believe

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 11:09 AM
Short memory. Besides, you might have changed your mind

Nope, still the same...the only thing in debate is the size of the lift, the size of the tires and if I want to use that spool I have in the rear.

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 11:11 AM
Dana diffs can take time. But leaf spring lifts are easy. I used to do them in four hours by myself back in the day

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 11:14 AM
Dana diffs can take time. But leaf spring lifts are easy. I used to do them in four hours by myself back in the day

Took 2 days to do my XJ (mostly cuz everything was rusted together)

itll be a spring over/shackle flip lift (cheaper and I get more lift)

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 11:16 AM
Got your steering figured out. Drag link might be hitting the spring

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 11:18 AM
I'm getting the one bj's requires to get if you get the sea/shackle lift....the cross over steering...hopefully it won't need too much more

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 11:19 AM
OK, I remember lifting Waggys back in the day. No high steer options then so lift was limited to three inches. But with help, still only one day

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 11:23 AM
Yeah, if they said it was required then I added that to my over all cost.....the biggest suspension leaf spring lift kit I found was only 4" and over $1000....the soa kit was only $305

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 11:25 AM
That 4" kit will be pretty stiff in the front

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 11:26 AM
Well then another reason not to get it

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 11:27 AM
Yup. But still, only a day in the shop. Gives you a day to wheel :D

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 11:29 AM
Lol true but ID rather have her be lifted high and stand out and save money

She'll get plenty of wheeling time!!

4.3LXJ
03-05-2014, 11:30 AM
I am sure of that

EekGirl96
03-05-2014, 11:31 AM
And plenty of "wow look at that!!"

Can't wait :D

EekGirl96
03-11-2014, 03:29 PM
Well due to some unforseen circumstances im back to the original plan of me doing everything on my own (its a long story)

So now im having to decide if I want to put everything on "layaway" (since the place where I plan on getting a majority of the parts offer it) and pay it off slowly over time (I wont get any of the parts until I pay everything off) or if I want to slowly start buying the parts I need to get her up and running and then put everything else on layaway...either way itll be a long, slow process.

On a brighter side, found a good deal on my tranny rebuild....$875 plus tax and they will drop it, rebuild it and install it....sounds like a good deal (comes with a warranty but I'd buy an extended one just incase)..now I just need the funds lol

4.3LXJ
03-11-2014, 03:36 PM
Money, money, money. Personally I like to accumulate parts as I go, just in case there are unforeseen things that come up

EekGirl96
03-11-2014, 03:40 PM
Money, money, money. Personally I like to accumulate parts as I go, just in case there are unforeseen things that come up

Yeah, thats all I see is dollar signs

The only problem I see is me spending money on other stuff, atleast if its in layaway I'd have to pay it off month by month

but I dont know :bang:

NW99XJ
03-11-2014, 05:23 PM
Looks like I missed you in chat Amber, so I'll post it up here......
IF you were to just get it up and running.... what then?
Would it just be so that it can be able to be moved around?
Would you play with it and risk damaging it?....
IF it were mechanically sound first.... what would you do with it before you went and did the rest?

If it was mine... here's what I would do:
I would do the tranny fix first regardless....
Then work on the things like electrical, minor interior fixes/upgrades, minor mechanical stuff like brakes, etc.... basically tackle all the small little things that can be done in an afternoon, weekend, by yourself, etc...
All the while, throwing money towards the layaway funds....
Now that list (the parts on layaway) can be in a constant state of evolution, as its not going to matter really what comes on/off that list until its all paid off.... this way if over the course of a few months/year, whatever, you change your mind on something (lift size/brand, tires, gears, traction devices, armor, etc...) it really only changes the bottom line slightly, and you can still continue to joy ride it occasionally, fix up the little things here and there, etc....
This also saves you the hassle of buying one thing at a time, staking parts up in a pile at home, and then changing your mind at some point and have one part not work with another.

Then when that layaway gets paid off, you have a running driving waggy that you are not only familiar with at this point from having worked on it a bit, but will have some time and money into it as well (not to mention pride) ...and it would be ready to drive (pile of parts and all) down to a shop to have the big work done, lift, armor, gears, etc....
That is unless you were going to tackle that stuff on your own as well, in which case more power to ya!

EekGirl96
03-11-2014, 05:33 PM
Looks like I missed you in chat Amber, so I'll post it up here......
IF you were to just get it up and running.... what then?
Would it just be so that it can be able to be moved around?
Would you play with it and risk damaging it?....
IF it were mechanically sound first.... what would you do with it before you went and did the rest?

If it was mine... here's what I would do:
I would do the tranny fix first regardless....
Then work on the things like electrical, minor interior fixes/upgrades, minor mechanical stuff like brakes, etc.... basically tackle all the small little things that can be done in an afternoon, weekend, by yourself, etc...
All the while, throwing money towards the layaway funds....
Now that list (the parts on layaway) can be in a constant state of evolution, as its not going to matter really what comes on/off that list until its all paid off.... this way if over the course of a few months/year, whatever, you change your mind on something (lift size/brand, tires, gears, traction devices, armor, etc...) it really only changes the bottom line slightly, and you can still continue to joy ride it occasionally, fix up the little things here and there, etc....
This also saves you the hassle of buying one thing at a time, staking parts up in a pile at home, and then changing your mind at some point and have one part not work with another.

Then when that layaway gets paid off, you have a running driving waggy that you are not only familiar with at this point from having worked on it a bit, but will have some time and money into it as well (not to mention pride) ...and it would be ready to drive (pile of parts and all) down to a shop to have the big work done, lift, armor, gears, etc....
That is unless you were going to tackle that stuff on your own as well, in which case more power to ya!

Thats kinda my thinking too josh, just get her up and mobile so that I can drive her but that will include the axle swap(nothing wrong with the axle I have on her now, I just dont want to do it twice) and if I do an axle swap I will most likely install the gears and locker since im down there. The lift may be one of the last things I do since she has a 3" lift currently and thatll be fine in the mean time, which means I'll just find some 33's to stick under her until then. Everything else is a crap shoot, I dont want to put everything on layaway then get the money to buy, lets say, the bumper and having to wait until I pay everything off to get it so im thinking about putting the stuff I know I can live without for the time being on layaway that way I always have the option to add the other stuff if I cant come up with the funds.

And yes Josh, im expecting that itll just be me doing it...unless my hubby comes around and will help.

EekGirl96
03-19-2014, 09:01 AM
So decided to look for a transmission on craigslist just to see what all is out there and found a guy selling two 727's out of 4x4 waggys for $250 each.

Now I have to decide if I want to take his word for it and buy one or just go have the one in mine rebuilt. He did say that both waggys that the trannys are out of were DD's up until something else (engine wise I guess) made him park them and use them for parts trucks. One of the trannys is still installed in the waggy, the other is already out...the one thats still installed isnt driveable since the steering column has been sold as well as other parts.


What should I do? Chance it and trust his word or spend the money to have mine rebuilt....I have had friends buy used transmissions from craigslist and havent had a problem with them but theres always that chance of me getting the screw up....

bluedragon436
03-19-2014, 09:13 AM
Only crappy part about that is, if it is bad, you won't know till you put all the effort into swapping them out on your Waggy, just to have to take it to the shop you were going to take yours too in the first place and have it rebuilt... Even though it is $600 ish more to have yours rebuilt... at least then you know the trans is good, and if it does have an issue it'll be warrantied... but that is just me.. would hate for you to spend that money to get a transmission do all the swap work, only to find out it is bad, then be bummed you just wasted that money and put the Waggy on the back burner again... I know you really want to get going with her, and see her come back to life and be drivable, not sit...

EekGirl96
03-19-2014, 09:17 AM
Only crappy part about that is, if it is bad, you won't know till you put all the effort into swapping them out on your Waggy, just to have to take it to the shop you were going to take yours too in the first place and have it rebuilt... Even though it is $600 ish more to have yours rebuilt... at least then you know the trans is good, and if it does have an issue it'll be warrantied... but that is just me.. would hate for you to spend that money to get a transmission do all the swap work, only to find out it is bad, then be bummed you just wasted that money and put the Waggy on the back burner again... I know you really want to get going with her, and see her come back to life and be drivable, not sit...

Yeah my thoughts exactly, I dont want to buy the tranny, install it and have it not work THEN have to pay another $800+ to have my original one rebuilt, but then what if he is telling the truth and it is a good tranny and instead I pay the money to have mine rebuilt instead of saving $600+ and have that go towards other parts.

The fact that they were dd's before they became donors makes me trust the guy but there still that little voice in the back of my mind saying dont do it....:bang:

bluedragon436
03-19-2014, 10:16 AM
Well I would say if you can work out a deal to do a trade for other parts or whatever like you were saying... I'd def be doing that... at least that way if it isn't any good then you aren't out the $250, but if they do work then you saved that money for other parts for the Waggy...

EekGirl96
03-19-2014, 10:18 AM
Thats what im going to try to do, hopefully itll be in good shape....that would put me in a good mood and more "into" this whole build

bluedragon436
03-19-2014, 10:19 AM
I really hope that it is a good deal... cause would def love to see you be in a good mood... and def more into the build... Can't wait to see her up and going under her own powa!!!

EekGirl96
03-19-2014, 10:22 AM
flowa-powa?!

bluedragon436
03-19-2014, 10:22 AM
NO FLOWA-POWA Waggy!!!

EekGirl96
03-19-2014, 10:25 AM
Lol,...woah...what just happened?!

;)

4.3LXJ
03-19-2014, 10:25 AM
Flowa-powa? Does this mean there will be purple daisies painted on the sides?

EekGirl96
03-19-2014, 10:27 AM
purple, orange, pink, blue but no red


and peace signs

bluedragon436
03-19-2014, 10:28 AM
Flowa-powa? Does this mean there will be purple daisies painted on the sides?

That is what I am afraid of as well... that's why I said NO FLOWA-POWA Waggy!!!:thumbdown::thumbdown: LOL

4.3LXJ
03-19-2014, 10:28 AM
purple, orange, pink, blue but no red


and peace signs

Come to the Sierra foothills where all the pot is grown. You will fit right in :smiley-taunt002:

EekGirl96
03-19-2014, 10:29 AM
If you see flowers on the side of my waggy please take it away from me and put me in a psych-ward

EekGirl96
03-19-2014, 10:29 AM
Come to the Sierra foothills where all the pot is grown. You will fit right in :smiley-taunt002:

lol I'll just burn the fields and sit in the middle...itll be the best time of my life with my waggy by my side

4.3LXJ
03-19-2014, 10:34 AM
If you see flowers on the side of my waggy please take it away from me and put me in a psych-ward

Instead of a rubber room, it will be giant tires.

bluedragon436
03-19-2014, 10:36 AM
Hells yea we can take that down a hill!!! Then make decisions after we stop!!! LOL

EekGirl96
03-19-2014, 10:57 AM
Hells yea we can take that down a hill!!! Then make decisions after we stop!!! LOL

lol take it down a hill then try to walk a straight line.....funny!!!

EekGirl96
04-03-2014, 01:04 PM
Well after careful consideration I decided NOT to get the transmission off of craigslist and instead have the one in mine rebuilt and get a warranty with it....


....so stay tuned....it may be a little but it will come along :)

NW99XJ
04-03-2014, 01:14 PM
Well after careful consideration I decided NOT to get the transmission off of craigslist and instead have the one in mine rebuilt and get a warranty with it....


....so stay tuned....it may be a little but it will come along :)
Thats probably the best way to go Kee... it'll give you peace of mind thats its been gone thru, fixed, and done up professionally, and the warranty is just added protection.

So are you going to try and pull it out of the Waggy? Or will you have the Waggy towed down to the tranny shop?

EekGirl96
04-03-2014, 01:16 PM
Thats probably the best way to go Kee... it'll give you peace of mind thats its been gone thru, fixed, and done up professionally, and the warranty is just added protection.

So are you going to try and pull it out of the Waggy? Or will you have the Waggy towed down to the tranny shop?

They will pull, rebuild and install for one price. I just want to get her running first.

4.3LXJ
04-03-2014, 02:46 PM
You will need to do that so you can verify it is done right.

EekGirl96
04-03-2014, 02:48 PM
You will need to do that so you can verify it is done right.

Yeah I know that, that's why that is the #1 thing to do right now

4.3LXJ
04-03-2014, 02:49 PM
What do yo have to do t it for it to run?

EekGirl96
04-03-2014, 02:52 PM
What do yo have to do t it for it to run?

Im thinking and hoping if I just remove the msd ignition that the previous owner put on it itll run. It runs now but if I let it sit for awhile itll die, put a new battery in it, started it and it ran fine then let it sit for like 45 minutes and itll act as if its dead, I'll jump it and it fires up and runs great but the minute I turn her off and let her sit she dies so im hoping its just that stupid msd ignition.

4.3LXJ
04-03-2014, 02:54 PM
Might be. Could be a coil too

EekGirl96
04-03-2014, 02:56 PM
Might be. Could be a coil too

Maybe, Im going to remove it or see if theres a short in the wiring somewhere (the previous owner didn't know much) and if that's the problem then great and if not then I'll keep on searching